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jeeagles Flag 05 Oct 21 4.32pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

Top blokes for sending money home to support their families, instead of pizzing it away in a pub. And why would they spend time off over here in the lorry cab, or in a cheap hotel, when they could go home to see their kids and mrs? We need top blokes like these in the european calvary we are begging for,they seem sound enough fellas to me!

I was out with an Albanian the other night who was absolutely scathing of the UK work ethic.

Whilst British kids are out pretending to be weekend millionaires, buying bottles of prosecco with sparklers at £500 a table bars whilst wearing design brands, driving hire purchase cars, going to Ibiza twice a year/travelling, and shoving things up their nose. There counterparts from other European countries are sticking to Weatherspoon's and saving up.

After f*cking themselves up so much every weekend then squandering their future it's no wonder they have a mental health crisis when they hit 30 and have nothing to show but blurred memories and a pretentious Instagram story.


 

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Originally posted by jeeagles

I was out with an Albanian the other night who was absolutely scathing of the UK work ethic.

Whilst British kids are out pretending to be weekend millionaires, buying bottles of prosecco with sparklers at £500 a table bars whilst wearing design brands, driving hire purchase cars, going to Ibiza twice a year/travelling, and shoving things up their nose. There counterparts from other European countries are sticking to Weatherspoon's and saving up.

After f*cking themselves up so much every weekend then squandering their future it's no wonder they have a mental health crisis when they hit 30 and have nothing to show but blurred memories and a pretentious Instagram story.

Yeah, I can imagine , the house of cards is ready to fall down, its already happening with the housing crisis, lots of these instagram youngsters are living for now, on credit, taking pics to post, with no chance of leaving the family home. Nothing wrong in that, but the apartment dream they see on towie or other tv is not obtainable for most, try buying a new apartment with a zero hour contract job and a 2 % deposit!

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 05 Oct 21 5.25pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

I heard one UK HGV driver/Manager on the radio today. He says the pay is poor and he spends all week away from home, only getting back for part of Saturday and Sunday.
He said Eastern Europeans loved the HGV work and now there's a shortage as they had to go home. "It was well known BP were the lowest paying company for drivers, so when the fuel shortage hit, it was them that took the biggest hit"

So yes, it seemed the UK was attracting a lot of East European drivers, but the pay/conditions don't make it a likely career option for many in the UK.

The HGV joke is that they'd get more pay stacking shelves in Tesco's (and more time at home too).

How long before the UK starts getting UN food parcels,.. (obviously dropped by air)

 


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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 05 Oct 21 5.27pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

I heard one UK HGV driver/Manager on the radio today. He says the pay is poor and he spends all week away from home, only getting back for part of Saturday and Sunday.
He said Eastern Europeans loved the HGV work and now there's a shortage as they had to go home. "It was well known BP were the lowest paying company for drivers, so when the fuel shortage hit, it was them that took the biggest hit"

So yes, it seemed the UK was attracting a lot of East European drivers, but the pay/conditions don't make it a likely career option for many in the UK.

The HGV joke is that they'd get more pay stacking shelves in Tesco's (and more time at home too).

How long before the UK starts getting UN food parcels,.. (obviously dropped by air)


Didn"t India try and donate to an emergency food parcel fund for gb last year?

 

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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 05 Oct 21 5.37pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

What we need is to not rely on cheap labour and sort opportunities, pay and working conditions out to stop this idiotic cycle. On a personal level, good luck to those who do work and succeed abroad.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (05 Oct 2021 3.40pm)

With the reported 'need' for 5,000 extra overseas skilled/qualified drivers, i see only 127 have 'applied' for the visa. How many of those will actually be eligible to actually work in the UK?

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Oct 21 5.40pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

No way, this was the CONservatives master plan about 11 years ago, careful planning by a cunning party, not showing their cards to anyone, stir up a vote, win it, have months/years of turbulance in the country, cancel christmas, shortages of everything from fuel to food, carers to bar staff, fruit pickers to doctors! But, for a while, worker bees wages will have to increase, until they can go back to slave wages, which is bound to happen. Train up enough drivers, straight from school, they will soon out supply the demand, then the zero hours contracts can come out, a CON invention! Strange way to raise wages for the workers, when a half hour meeting with the union rep would suffice, but hey ho, in bunter we trust!

One of the reasons I voted Brexit was for shocks to the system. One of them was cheap labour imported without a care of the effects. The other was to get all parties to move focus on manufacturing and how we can prosper with the products wanted abroad. The former is going to happen. So suck it up.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Oct 21 5.48pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

I heard one UK HGV driver/Manager on the radio today. He says the pay is poor and he spends all week away from home, only getting back for part of Saturday and Sunday.
He said Eastern Europeans loved the HGV work and now there's a shortage as they had to go home. "It was well known BP were the lowest paying company for drivers, so when the fuel shortage hit, it was them that took the biggest hit"

So yes, it seemed the UK was attracting a lot of East European drivers, but the pay/conditions don't make it a likely career option for many in the UK.

The HGV joke is that they'd get more pay stacking shelves in Tesco's (and more time at home too).

How long before the UK starts getting UN food parcels,.. (obviously dropped by air)

Nonsense. Some companies might end up paying less per hour from when you arrive at the HGV depot to when you leave. Iíd like to know how many. But shelf stackers donít earn more per month or year than HGV drivers.

Food prices are artificially low. The supermarkets have bullied everyone including farmers, suppliers, staff, drivers, and itís time for things to change.

Iím not surprised with BP. But itís been used politically, when in fact these mega rich petrol companies are making even more from their own mismanagement and escaping criticism from the public. Funny that.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Oct 21 5.51pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

With the reported 'need' for 5,000 extra overseas skilled/qualified drivers, i see only 127 have 'applied' for the visa. How many of those will actually be eligible to actually work in the UK?

As long as the fuel is supplied and thereís enough food to eat I think many wonít be too fussed. Many wonít be going potty because there isnít an abundance of choice including 12 different choices of every product in the supermarket. I canít remember how many thousand HGV drivers were on furlough. What weíre they delivering before furlough to be off work for 18 months?

 


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View dynamicdick's Profile dynamicdick Flag Dormansland 05 Oct 21 8.26pm Send a Private Message to dynamicdick Add dynamicdick as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This country better get used to shortages because our infrastructure will soon begin to fail under the weight of so many immigrants arriving legal and illegal.

Don't say you weren't warned. Blaming Brexit is pure politics.
The real problem is a reliance on cheap foreign labour and rapidly increasing numbers of people to service.

Just like ancient Rome.

Weetabix.....

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Oct 21 8.28pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by dynamicdick

Weetabix.....

About 12 different types on the shelves and anxiety if they arenít all available?

 


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Cheap EU pork flooding market as cull of unwanted pigs begins at UK farms.

Government Ďare standing by and watching this happení, a leading supplier said.

The reality of brexit.

 

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 05 Oct 21 8.55pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

One of the reasons I voted Brexit was for shocks to the system. One of them was cheap labour imported without a care of the effects. The other was to get all parties to move focus on manufacturing and how we can prosper with the products wanted abroad. The former is going to happen. So suck it up.

Surely having less choice in the supermarkets isn"t something to vote for, it"s not progress at all! You certainly got a shock to the system-and its ongoing, probably not the shock you wanted! As for foreign drivers coming, or the "calvary," thank god for them! They won"t come cheap, so we both agree, they must be substantially rewarded for seeing bunters S.O.S and coming to our rescue! As for sucking it up, we both agreed today wqe wish them good luck, travelling to a foreign country to work! Fair play Rudi, fair play !

 

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