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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 07 Jun 22 3.57pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I think that is hugely out-of-date.

Anyone describing him as 'honest' is just objectively wrong at this point.

Yup a lie never left any other PMs lips !

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 07 Jun 22 3.58pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

If you read BlueJay's post he seems to think that if I recognise that autism and other mental health issues are a 'drain on society' that this means that I have no compassion for those conditions or don't agree with supporting them.

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However, just to be clear to those who read BlueJay's comments and take them as an honest reflection of my views I don't view all gays as 'degenerates' and 'faggots' so his contention is once again inaccurate.

That issue deserves a far larger post that I've been lazy on writing but I will definitely post because this charge has been made several times now.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jun 2022 3.20pm)

You mentioned no other mental health issues, it was a pitiful and disgusting take that specifically deemed aspergers sufferers as a social burden and types who will fill up our prisons. Now you switch to using these same people as a shield. Coward. Previously those coping with this were 'poor or incapable parents offloading their responsibility for rearing poorly disciplined and rude children on a label'. As inhumane on this topic as any other minority related one until it favours you not to be.

As for gay people, thinking that somehow my comments on your conduct as wrong because 'oh i didn't mean all of them' is ludicrous. I'm sure that really helps your family. You have also used the term 'faggot' directed towards those you have on multiple occasions infered are gay. If you want your conduct to be at the same level as twitter types targetting footballers with racist insults, then you do that. That's where you sit. That's your level.

I actually defended you on here due to some run ins with others, but when despite stating repeatedly that I voted for Brexit and want strict immigration, you accused me of wanting some kind of failed, lawless future for this country (with the only possible reason for that my own stated mixed race relationship and views that all British born should be treated equally and fairly) the realities of your politics truly hit home. You seem to have gone to unfortunate places politically, and its warped you to the point where mundane views from decent hard working people are a problem for you, while those lurching to the extremes are defended to the hilt. That's for you. In the same way that I've bizarrely come to defend your family against you, I will always defend my own family and friends too thanks, black or white, colour or creed. Leave the house more, interact, and you might eventually find your way back to something resembling decency, rather than your current cartoonishish shut-in outlook on life.

Edited by BlueJay (07 Jun 2022 4.11pm)

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 07 Jun 22 4.15pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Apparently I'm a coward too.

My face is on these boards, his isn't.

I live in Wisbech, where does he live?

As usual he talks tosh.

All my opinions are known to my family, some they agree with and some they don't. They do not view me as he does and considering what he calls me they would be happy to tell him where to get off.

All he ever has are empathy arguments. It's feels instead of reals. I don't view that as enough, however the conclusions he draws from what I say are his, not mine.

I call out his sense of hypocritical moralism because that's what I think it is. He ignores those that suffer for his own hidden progressive politics out of his sense of...what I believe is a thinly disguised moralistic narcissism.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jun 2022 4.17pm)

 


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View orpingtoneagle's Profile orpingtoneagle Flag Orpington 07 Jun 22 4.17pm Send a Private Message to orpingtoneagle Add orpingtoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I think that is hugely out-of-date.

Anyone describing him as 'honest' is just objectively wrong at this point.

That is not the point I am making. Whatever the man does and however right or wrong you or others think it is, there are a lot of people who still see him as a good leader who can do no wrong, seemingly whatever the media or opposition chuck at him.


 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 07 Jun 22 4.25pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I live in Wisbech

That's nice for you.

As for your crap conduct, it's all there to see. I certainly don't put it past you to be too far gone to realise that or to manage to excuse the inexcusable. That is likely why you've found yourself where you are in the first place in terms of where your morality and politics sit. Behave as you do, and you'll be called out for it.

Edited by BlueJay (07 Jun 2022 4.29pm)

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 07 Jun 22 4.26pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Yup a lie never left any other PMs lips !

How many other PMs have been sacked for fabricating quotes? Or how many have refused to acknowledge how many children they have?

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 07 Jun 22 4.31pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The liar who says he won't post at me, even expresses relief on it..posts at me...shows the difference between words and reality.

Personally I think his neo and social liberal arguments and positions are destructive and I can prove it statistically....on the breakdown on societal norms and rates to homicides. That's all been done in the past but those discussions showed that he only has empathy arguments....and after that just name calling, projections and exaggerations.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jun 2022 4.31pm)

 


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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 07 Jun 22 4.48pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays
..shows the difference between words and reality.

Any pitiful way to excuse. Yes of course it means that.. in your head. Making factual statements about your conduct does not make a liar out of me or anyone. A fool out of you though.

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Personally I think his neo and social liberal arguments and positions are destructive and I can prove it statistically....on the breakdown on societal norms and rates to homicides. That's all been done in the past but those discussions showed that he only has empathy arguments....and after that just name calling, projections and exaggerations.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jun 2022 4.31pm)

If you're not keen on societal empathy then get a job and stop relying on it on function, shut-in.

Oh and what position would that be? Do you mean my oft repeated stances on here of voting for Brexit, favouring a significant clampdown down on immigration, being adament that we should act as not to be seen as a 'go to' destination for those coming across the channel - but of also wanting to treat Brits fairly regardless of their skin colour and of being in a mixed race relationship? That's what it means in your fringe led mind to favour 'breakdown on societal norms and rates to homicides' now is it? Racially, you are mentally gone. Get back to your dissident right video playlist comfort blanket. Who needs real people after all, or to treat them in any particular way. Just click play.


Edited by BlueJay (07 Jun 2022 5.07pm)

 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 07 Jun 22 4.51pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

There are too many posts appearing that have nothing to do with the topic but are comment on other posters.

Remeber the rules:

DEBATE THE TOPIC, NOT THE POSTER.

Thank you!

 


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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 07 Jun 22 4.57pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by becky

There are too many posts appearing that have nothing to do with the topic but are comment on other posters.

Remeber the rules:

DEBATE THE TOPIC, NOT THE POSTER.

Thank you!

The written word already speaks volumes so I shouldn't have responded to the potshot. As you say this isn't the place. So apologies for sidetracking. I know your job can be a thankless task, so am sorry for adding to that.

Edited by BlueJay (07 Jun 2022 4.59pm)

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 07 Jun 22 5.13pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by becky

There are too many posts appearing that have nothing to do with the topic but are comment on other posters.

Remeber the rules:

DEBATE THE TOPIC, NOT THE POSTER.

Thank you!

Is that like mickey droy
TAKE THE MAN , NOT THE BALL
sorry

 

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 07 Jun 22 5.18pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Her comments yesterday were some of the most ridiculous I have ever heard from an MP and, hopefully, will see her consigned, in the fullness of time, to a dark corner of the back benches.

 

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