Starmer's past catching up with him
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 HKOwen  Hong Kong 23 Apr 23 2.31pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Let us again consider Pareto. Many people taking small amounts they don’t deserve (and also many not taking what they do deserve). You think them easier targets than few people taking very large amounts they don’t deserve. I can only conclude you are not one of the former. Still no source for your stats ,ok, time to move on
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
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steeleye20  Croydon 23 Apr 23 2.37pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
How anybody with any kind of belief in anysort of basic understanding of what freedom of speech is could vote for Labour is beyond me. Now please don't think this is me shilling for the Tories because it aint. Would rather cut my hand off than vote for them as well. But seriously, Labour are through the looking glass now. What they did to Corbyn is bad enough but this... In some ways I feel sorry for the mainstream Left. They are literally so cucked by their anti-Tory stance on any and everything that they are incapable of actually taking any kind of rational POV on what Starmer is doing. Starmer could announce almost anything and they will still trot out and vote for him. One of the accusations made about the traditional white working class was that they voted Labour by way of a Pavlovian response. Hence why an ambitious Labour type might hold their nose and represent a constituency in some god-forsaken part of the midlands or the north. After all, as Mandleson once infamously stated, 'they have nowhere else to go'. Brexit put paid to that notion. But are the soc.libs now viewed with equal disdain by Starmer and co? Are they the ones who can just be relied on no matter what? What has she said looks pretty mundane to me and she has apologised. These things should be managed but it looks like Starmer is continuing the authoritarian anti-democratic trudge of the UK. We used to be tolerant, I'm not offended when people make outbursts just carry on regardless.
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| Mapletree Croydon 23 Apr 23 3.26pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Still no source for your stats ,ok, time to move on Look it up yourself. Please feel free to disprove my figures Your snide remarks never have any real analysis or content, I can't be bothered continually spoon-feeding you.
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| Mapletree Croydon 23 Apr 23 3.30pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I just read this, I think suspending her is well over the top for the Labour party. She has voiced an opinion acknowledging that some groups suffer prejudice but racism is different. I am not sure I agree with her but I don't see her comments as antisemitic. The Party machine is really out to get her she has said far worse in the past. That is what is known as leaning into a punch She knows that anything that could be considered antisemitic is going to get jumped on. The Jewish Labour Movement said it "regretfully" supported the party's decision. It tweeted: "Diane Abbott is one of the most respected people in the Labour Party as an activist who overcame racism and prejudice to become Britain's first black woman MP. We should be unified in our struggle against racism, not divided against one another. A hierarchy of racism only divides communities and assists the racists." Seems to cover it.
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cryrst  The garden of England 23 Apr 23 3.31pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
What has she said looks pretty mundane to me and she has apologised. These things should be managed but it looks like Starmer is continuing the authoritarian anti-democratic trudge of the UK. We used to be tolerant, I'm not offended when people make outbursts just carry on regardless.
She apologised and it’s now all ok.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 23 Apr 23 3.54pm |
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'Sir Softie' has banged up a lot of people. Rishi Sunak’s ‘Sir Softy’ attack on Keir Starmer could backfire on crime record, strategists warn. But political strategists have questioned the logic of Mr Sunak focusing on the issue of crime, given the public’s view of the Government’s track record on the issue since it has been in power. Tories should not be feeling good about people examining their record.
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| Pembroke Bristol 23 Apr 23 7.07pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
What has she said looks pretty mundane to me and she has apologised. These things should be managed but it looks like Starmer is continuing the authoritarian anti-democratic trudge of the UK. We used to be tolerant, I'm not offended when people make outbursts just carry on regardless.
Mundane? She minimised the holocaust. It wasn't racism. It was prejudice. Black people had to sit at the back of the bus.
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| georgenorman 23 Apr 23 7.54pm |
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It's very entertaining to read the posts of people moaning about the treatment of Abbott when they were previously applauding the treatment of Rabb. Neither Rabb nor Abbott should have been persecuted for what they have said.
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| cryrst The garden of England 23 Apr 23 8.09pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
It's very entertaining to read the posts of people moaning about the treatment of Abbott when they were previously applauding the treatment of Rabb. Neither Rabb nor Abbott should have been persecuted for what they have said. Can you hear the silence
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Teddy Eagle  23 Apr 23 8.27pm |
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Originally posted by Pembroke
Mundane? She minimised the holocaust. It wasn't racism. It was prejudice. Black people had to sit at the back of the bus. Comparing the last two thousand years of Jewish history to the treatment of redheads would show a lack of understanding on anyone's part let alone the MP for a constituency which includes Stamford Hill.
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| Spiderman Horsham 23 Apr 23 8.53pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
'Sir Softie' has banged up a lot of people. Rishi Sunak’s ‘Sir Softy’ attack on Keir Starmer could backfire on crime record, strategists warn. But political strategists have questioned the logic of Mr Sunak focusing on the issue of crime, given the public’s view of the Government’s track record on the issue since it has been in power. Tories should not be feeling good about people examining their record. As DPP II would hope he did bang up a lot of people. It is the ones he chose to ignore and allow to continue their abhorrent crimes, that are the issue Edited by Spiderman (23 Apr 2023 8.53pm) Edited by Spiderman (23 Apr 2023 8.53pm)
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| Spiderman Horsham 23 Apr 23 8.56pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Can you hear the silence Oh come niw, it was only a draft!, so why draft it? What was the final copy going to say? Just think, Steely’s mob would have had her as Home Secretary
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