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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

what are you talking about ? i don't see any of that here.....

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The taste of globalism.

 


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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

What surprises me is that those responsible for a four year enquiry which apparently unearthed evidence of serious crimes didn't think to inform the police of their findings.
Is he guilty? Not until a court finds him to be; this is the bedrock of our legal system and personal feelings about the accused shouldn't alter the fact.

Quite.

Brand slept with thousands of women, and I think aspects of his behaviour are valid to criticise. However, If Brand had been a rapist then the Police would have been involved decades ago. What's more likely is that he was an arse with some women and some others are opportunists now the culture is different.

Like you imply, If Brand is a rapist then spending 4 years on an investigation and not going to the Police looks incredibly irresponsible.

I think the media know it doesn't stand up in court and so are willing to blacken his name in public instead.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Do we know they didnít inform the police?

It is down to individuals to make complaints and perhaps those complaining were/are reluctant to do so, either because of mistrust, embarrassment or fear. This may give them the confidence to do so.

I heard the primary journalists involved, from Horizon and the Times, interviewed on the very detailed process that was undertaken to assess how this would be handled. It wasnít a simple or quick decision. They were well aware of the need to respect a presumption of innocence whilst ensuring that what was fact was presented but also that which was just allegation was stated as such.

So mistrust, embarrassment or fear stopped them going to the police with their allegations, but it was ok airing everything with a bunch of journalists?

OK

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

This from someone whose opinion can routinely be disregarded.

What like disregarding gas appliance regulations?

 

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Originally posted by becky

So mistrust, embarrassment or fear stopped them going to the police with their allegations, but it was ok airing everything with a bunch of journalists?

OK

On the basis of anonymity, yes, especially when they werenít aware of one another at the time.

I would hope, and expect, the journalists to have encouraged them to also go to the police and that they would support them with the evidence they had.

The suggestion, made recently by another poster, that any allegation of rape would necessarily be reported to the police is nonsense. It just doesnít happen like that. There are many stories of embarrassment, shame or distrust restraining what ought to happen in every case.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

On the basis of anonymity, yes, especially when they werenít aware of one another at the time.

I would hope, and expect, the journalists to have encouraged them to also go to the police and that they would support them with the evidence they had.

The suggestion, made recently by another poster, that any allegation of rape would necessarily be reported to the police is nonsense. It just doesnít happen like that. There are many stories of embarrassment, shame or distrust restraining what ought to happen in every case.

They would have had anonymity if they went to the police...

and whilst women do generally go to the Ladies in pairs, with rape complaints, perhaps not so much.

I love the mansplaining though....

 


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Originally posted by georgenorman

What like disregarding gas appliance regulations?

Of course not.

What is this obsession with gas appliances?

I have already patiently explained that I donít have gas connected to any of my rental properties so these constant references can only be because you think you are being witty in some obscure way.

Whatever floats you boat. I think it sunk before it left the mooring.

 

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I thought making allegations were fine.

 


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Originally posted by becky

They would have had anonymity if they went to the police...

and whilst women do generally go to the Ladies in pairs, with rape complaints, perhaps not so much.

I love the mansplaining though....

They might not have trust though. They almost certainly did not approach the journalists. Much more likely the journalists found them, via probing rumours.

Yes I am a man, but I have a wife, two daughters, 3 granddaughters and 2 great granddaughters. They keep on my toes and well informed.

 

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