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BlueJay Flag UK 20 May 20 11.40pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle


The supermarkets, and indeed the DIY stores and garden centres, are better organised. It's their customers who cannot be trusted. I was in one today, the first time I had been for many weeks, and only then because we needed something urgently. Several shoppers just walked past me without a care in the world as though the lockdown being eased meant everything was back to normal. I am not in the extremely high risk category but nevertheless have been taking all sensible precautions. You cannot though control what others do. We all rely on one another and then have to assess the risk for ourselves.

I won't be doing another supermarket visit again any time soon.

You may think we are going too slowly. I think we are going every bit as fast as is possible, and maybe a bit too fast.

Requiring the very vulnerable to isolate completely may well be the only way to ensure their complete safety but their mental health needs to be considered too. Life isn't all about economics and ensuring continuous growth. People's welfare is a vital aspect too and the vulnerable are every bit as important as everyone else.

I see where you're coming from. There is bound to be a readjustment period since going from lockdown one minute to semi busy environments the next is night and day. It's certainly no picnic for the elderly and vulnerable either to realise that they are more at risk and need to proceed differently. That's the fault of this dreaded virus though rather than society.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 20 May 20 11.45pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am pretty sure that what that female doctor meant was if there were no lockdown restrictions of any kind in place, including those which have applied to the high-risk categories, then the asymptomatic would be the cause of the spread. She wouldn't have said that if there was still a partial lockdown applied to the high-risk group.

The supermarkets, and indeed the DIY stores and garden centres, are better organised. It's their customers who cannot be trusted. I was in one today, the first time I had been for many weeks, and only then because we needed something urgently. Several shoppers just walked past me without a care in the world as though the lockdown being eased meant everything was back to normal. I am not in the extremely high risk category but nevertheless have been taking all sensible precautions. You cannot though control what others do. We all rely on one another and then have to assess the risk for ourselves.

I won't be doing another supermarket visit again any time soon.

You may think we are going too slowly. I think we are going every bit as fast as is possible, and maybe a bit too fast.

Requiring the very vulnerable to isolate completely may well be the only way to ensure their complete safety but their mental health needs to be considered too. Life isn't all about economics and ensuring continuous growth. People's welfare is a vital aspect too and the vulnerable are every bit as important as everyone else.

The vulnerable isolate whether the rest of us are out or not. This sort of thing crops up a lot. I almost start to think that some want everyone to go through the same as those suffering the worst aspects of this.

It isn’t just about ££££. People checking into hospitals with heart attack symptoms is down by a half, new cancer cases are down, stroke cases are down. That’s just the immediate medical effect. The worst could come in the next few years, and probably will.

May e sainsburys warlingham is much more civilised. I did think so during the panic buying and stuff before the queuing. The relatively small Tesco in Caterham had it sussed with their one way aisles. Their staff were very observant of social distancing. I was surprised and impressed.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 20 May 20 11.56pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am pretty sure that what that female doctor meant was if there were no lockdown restrictions of any kind in place, including those which have applied to the high-risk categories, then the asymptomatic would be the cause of the spread. She wouldn't have said that if there was still a partial lockdown applied to the high-risk group.

The supermarkets, and indeed the DIY stores and garden centres, are better organised. It's their customers who cannot be trusted. I was in one today, the first time I had been for many weeks, and only then because we needed something urgently. Several shoppers just walked past me without a care in the world as though the lockdown being eased meant everything was back to normal. I am not in the extremely high risk category but nevertheless have been taking all sensible precautions. You cannot though control what others do. We all rely on one another and then have to assess the risk for ourselves.

I won't be doing another supermarket visit again any time soon.

You may think we are going too slowly. I think we are going every bit as fast as is possible, and maybe a bit too fast.

Requiring the very vulnerable to isolate completely may well be the only way to ensure their complete safety but their mental health needs to be considered too. Life isn't all about economics and ensuring continuous growth. People's welfare is a vital aspect too and the vulnerable are every bit as important as everyone else.

I'm as fearful as the next man (well some) but right at the start there was a mention that 5 mins or so in someone's company at a 2m distance or just walking past shouldn't cause an issue. A hug or a frenchie might
I'm sure someone brushing past you in a shop wouldn't cause a transfer of virus.
rules for me are. Distance when you can, clean hands regularly and wipe down all shopping and parcels or letters coming into the house including throwing away all bags and packaging. A waste of bags I know but it can survive for days on some surfaces. Wash all fruit and veg even bagged as that gets rid of that packaging.
Protect others with your actions and hope they think the same.
I get your concerned wissie but if you stay alert I'm sure you will be fine in a shop.
Tbh I dont use the big supermarkets. I use the mini stores of the big brands and small independents. I certainly spend less as well. Some smaller independents actually have some good stock different from your usual brands and the frozen section has a good variety in many. Brains faggots in fours is rare in big stores but just enough for me with some mash. Just an ie really. Anyone like faggots. No not you tom thankyou very much

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 21 May 20 12.09am

Also Wis, if you wear a face mask when out and about that likely conveys some protection and peace of mind. Maybe you already do.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 21 May 20 4.33am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Once the virus has properly entered the population there is little evidence that economic lockdown worked as opposed to sensible guidelines.

But it has certainly fecked the economy.

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 21 May 20 5.16am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Could have sworn she was brown bread. Now I realise that was Mary Millington. Met her once in Norbury

Didn’t put you down as someone who frequented such shops

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 21 May 20 5.28am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am pretty sure that what that female doctor meant was if there were no lockdown restrictions of any kind in place, including those which have applied to the high-risk categories, then the asymptomatic would be the cause of the spread. She wouldn't have said that if there was still a partial lockdown applied to the high-risk group.

The supermarkets, and indeed the DIY stores and garden centres, are better organised. It's their customers who cannot be trusted. I was in one today, the first time I had been for many weeks, and only then because we needed something urgently. Several shoppers just walked past me without a care in the world as though the lockdown being eased meant everything was back to normal. I am not in the extremely high risk category but nevertheless have been taking all sensible precautions. You cannot though control what others do. We all rely on one another and then have to assess the risk for ourselves.

I won't be doing another supermarket visit again any time soon.

You may think we are going too slowly. I think we are going every bit as fast as is possible, and maybe a bit too fast.

Requiring the very vulnerable to isolate completely may well be the only way to ensure their complete safety but their mental health needs to be considered too. Life isn't all about economics and ensuring continuous growth. People's welfare is a vital aspect too and the vulnerable are every bit as important as everyone else.

Regarding your comment about shoppers passing you in the supermarket, I understand where you are coming from but the aisles are quite wide. I witnessed a discussion only last week in Tesco (ours is well organised with a one way system throughout), an elderly lady had stopped to look at something on o shelf, chap walks passed her, not close, she shouted that he should not be passing her, he replied that he could not be expected to wait behind her all round the shop, which is true, a conundrum but a bit of common sense needed.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 21 May 20 5.58am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Where I come from being a grass is frowned upon.

Where's that. Prison?

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 21 May 20 6.30am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Where's that. Prison?

Post to your lefty mates.

That way you can have a word hug.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 21 May 20 7.50am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Papers are reported that London and the SE reported zero new infections in the last 24 hours. Assuming this is true it suggests that as London was the first into the crisis we are now hopefully leaving it with other parts of the country several weeks behind us.

The government should now be considering a regional strategy focusing on the current hotspots it also means we need this contact tracing especially in the areas which have low numbers to ensure they don't spike again.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 21 May 20 8.03am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Now remember politicians are honest, hard working and must be trusted to use their own common-sense. We should allow them to use their own discretion and get on with the job.

Take this Lid Dem Peer for example

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 21 May 20 8.35am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Post to your lefty mates.

That way you can have a word hug.

I refer you to your own posts re grooming gangs

Everyone should take their own moral responsibility

 

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