I don't give a s*** what colour he is. Why do you?

He needs to win games. That is all that matters in football.

That would have been de Boer, and it didn't work at all.

I hope Mr Vieira has a better relationship with the players and doesn't expect them all to be as good as he was.

The big difference, for me, is that Patrick Vieira needs to go out and purchase a large quantity of players (presumably of his choosing). FDB has to make do with the players that Fat Sam had purchased which weren't the correct ones for his system.

It's a risk, probably more of a risk than Lucien Favre but with the right assistant and player purchases it's no more of a risk than most of the alternatives out there.

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.

Patrick Vieira will be a breath of fresh air at Palace.

I wished him well on the New Manager thread just before becky (quite rightly) locked it. But reading some of the posts on here just wanted to add my two penneth.

Syd's post pretty much sums up my thoughts too, and, since his appointment was confirmed I've tried to uncover something about PV's style of play, tactics and his footballing philosophy.

It would seem he likes to play an attacking game whilst maintaining a strong defence. He will adapt tactics and formations to meet different teams, and he's not afraid to change things during the game if it's not going well. Also, as far as I've been able to glean, he'll make effective substitutions.

I was a supporter of Roy, especially towards the end of his contract, because it seemed pointless calling for his head when he had achieved his objective of keeping us up. However, I became frustrated by his rigid tactical approach to games regardless of the opposition and his late and often, seemingly, inappropriate substitutions.

Vieira will be the polar opposite which is why I think his management style will feel like a revelation. And a breath of fresh air.

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

Was wondering who the first person to mention this would be.

To the club, and majority of players and supporters the ethnicity of the manager makes no difference.

BAME is an offensive term and I'm sure some woke supporters may wrongly wear this as some kind of token badge of honour.... which is also patronising and offensive.

But its good for people from different backgrounds to see that managerial roles and just reserved for white people with average ability that are part of the right circles in the English football establishment.

On another note, an exciting an pleasing appointment. It's very, very hard for a manager to get a crack at a Premier League job. Clubs demand "premier league experienced" which tends to lead to the same group average/poor managers getting the top jobs time after time despite frequently failing.

It won't take a genius to keep us up, and it would take a terrible manager to take us down. We were extremely unfortunate with FdB and chances are lighting won't strike twice. PV had an opportunity to build a real career for himself in football. The worst likely scenario is that things don't work out, we sack him at Christmas and buy our way to safety. The best possible scenario is that we've unearthed a real up and coming manager. Most likely is that we do a bit better than last season in the league, but start to assemble a squad where we are build for the future rather than just treading water.

13th and above with over 45 points would be an acceptable season. Above 11th and over 50 points would be fantastic.

I thought that the opposite was true and it was just the dinosaurs that demanded Premier League experience