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Originally posted by Mapletree

Who is the puppet master supposed to be?

I presumed it was George Soros. Could be wrong.

 


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Originally posted by ASCPFC

I presumed it was George Soros. Could be wrong.

It's the head of the WEF and author of 'The Great Reset'.

Klaus Schwab.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's the head of the WEF and author of 'The Great Reset'.

Klaus Schwab.

Thanks

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Personally I don't think it really matters that much who leads the Tory party. While the SNP dominate Scotland Labour just aren't realistically going to get a majority.

It's probably more a case of which leader and how popular.....Even with the terrible state of things a hung parliament is the best they probably can get.

A Lib/Lab pack?....Mmmm....if that were possible maybe, but I think those days are gone.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jul 2022 3.09pm)

Don't count on it. Kier is weeding out the extreme left as Blaire did, only more quietly; and the time appears ripe for a pact, if only to ensure no further Tory rule.

If things carry on as they are - and especially if tories elect someone like Truss - safe blue seats will fall like non-pins in 2 years; and the Libs will pick up just enough seats to be players again. But they will not repeat the error they did under Clegg.

If Labour could win majority rule, then any such pact is unlikely. However, they cannot for the very (Scottish) reason you give.

 

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I was wrong. Tom lives to fight another day.

 

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Originally posted by silvertop

Don't count on it. Kier is weeding out the extreme left as Blaire did, only more quietly; and the time appears ripe for a pact, if only to ensure no further Tory rule.

If things carry on as they are - and especially if tories elect someone like Truss - safe blue seats will fall like non-pins in 2 years; and the Libs will pick up just enough seats to be players again. But they will not repeat the error they did under Clegg.

If Labour could win majority rule, then any such pact is unlikely. However, they cannot for the very (Scottish) reason you give.

Kier 'trans rights are human rights' Starmer is weeding out the extreme left?

To be honest I'm just not sure what that means. What is considered left and extreme left move so fast that I can't keep up.....seems to me the only difference is what you think of Israel.

As for Labour's chances, with or without an alliance, I think you're are wish listing a bit, but I guess we will see. The worse it gets economically who knows.

You can be assured that I won't be happy under any of these neo liberal globalists, regardless of which colour they wear.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jul 2022 4.27pm)

 


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Originally posted by silvertop

I was wrong. Tom lives to fight another day.

The telly debates will be something to watch at least.

Though their differences are mostly cosmetic.

It's hardly Benn v Healey.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jul 2022 4.32pm)

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Kier 'trans rights are human rights' Starmer is weeding out the extreme left?

To be honest I'm just not sure what that means. What is considered left and extreme left move so fast that I can't keep up.....seems to me the only difference is what you think of Israel.

As for Labour's chances, with or without an alliance, I think you're are wish listing a bit, but I guess we will see. The worse it gets economically who knows.

You can be assured that I won't be happy under any of these neo liberal globalists, regardless of which colour they wear.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jul 2022 4.27pm)

Ironic you would use that term as like "left" it is one with a wide range of definitions; and no "anti-globalist" on here has shown any sign of pinning any colour to any mast.

Thus, if you mean a policy of reduced international trade, drawn back intervention in overseas issues and general draw-bridge up nationalism then say it. If you mean white supremacy then say that. I genuinely don't know any more.

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Kier 'trans rights are human rights' Starmer is weeding out the extreme left?

To be honest I'm just not sure what that means. What is considered left and extreme left move so fast that I can't keep up.....seems to me the only difference is what you think of Israel.

As for Labour's chances, with or without an alliance, I think you're are wish listing a bit, but I guess we will see. The worse it gets economically who knows.

You can be assured that I won't be happy under any of these neo liberal globalists, regardless of which colour they wear.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jul 2022 4.27pm)

Not my wish!

 

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Originally posted by silvertop

Ironic you would use that term as like "left" it is one with a wide range of definitions; and no "anti-globalist" on here has shown any sign of pinning any colour to any mast.

Thus, if you mean a policy of reduced international trade, drawn back intervention in overseas issues and general draw-bridge up nationalism then say it. If you mean white supremacy then say that. I genuinely don't know any more.


There are no anti globalist parties allowed a mainstream stage in the UK.

In France, Le Penn and Zemmour are examples of nationalist parties that put societal cohesion first and values conserving national tradition, culture and family first....you know, actual conservatism....not just 'house price' conservatism, which is essentially what constitutes the defeat of conservative values in the UK.

So nationalism is certainly what I'm talking about.....England for the English, Ireland for the Irish and so on.....anti global village politics....it's not about no foreigners or non whites....If Israel and Japan have the same nationalistic policies where they have to be in the majority why is that considered a non starter here? They don't have reduced 'international trade' why is it considered that we would?

Not that I consider any of this possible today....the boomers basically sat on their arse and were brainwashed into global village idealism....It's gone.

I only make these points to stand for the truth that the native working classes of the UK were sold out by their globalist minded elites....they lost their living spaces and that will continue into the nicer areas and they now see increasingly see their traditions and history attacked, initially from academia and the institutions......and they are told to kneel....it started on the left but even the party of Churchill and Thatcher has fallen now.

But I for one will never kneel.

As for 'white supremacy', I've rejected this phrase many times. It's entirely a leftist attack phrase and it's nothing to do with my arguments. Zemmour, for example is Jewish and genetically from Algeria, he's not white, yet he's a French nationalist who would completely understand what I talk about.

What I talk about is no different to the attitudes of native Americans in America....but the left don't call them 'native supremacists' do they. No, amusingly they have a double standard purely based upon race.


Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jul 2022 5.54pm)

 


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I think the Scottish scenario is also being played out in Wales, another working class stronghold. Independence voting is gathering momentum, at the expense of Labour.
And the irony is, there is a lot of hatred of Tories, but voting for independence deprives Labour of the vote.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (14 Jul 2022 5.19pm)

 


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'Tory leadership race reveals just how foul the Conservatives really are'.

Edinburgh Daily News.

And Sir Keir is not talking to them, another brilliant political move.

 

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