Go fight for your hero then.

Go fight for Zelensky.

I'll be here trying to pay my bills and trying to keep my kids warm so you can feel better about the Ukrainians.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

The level of your nonsense just gets worse! No one at all wanted this war. What a truly stupid idea. It was entirely down to Putin. The west was faced with a choice. Appease and allow the Russians free access to Ukraine, resulting in their eventual domination of the whole country, with all the escalating risks that involves, or support Ukraine with modern weapons.

De-escalation would be welcome at any time but you seem to want the Ukrainians to surrender to achieve it . True de-escalation can only happen when it’s in both sides interest to do so.

This is a very costly war, in every sense, but I give thanks that most of us understand that the costs would ultimately be even higher if we had just turned our backs on it.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

The downside of domestic and business energy being subsidised by ever growing French debt, not that I necessarily disagree, but it’s not a surprise people take little notice unless it’s going to cost lots more of the first higher bill makes them gulp. Smart businesses will see it as a competitive advantage (in survival) cutting the energy costs, which would normally be considered pretty much a fixed or committed cost, but less so now.

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I've heard it said and I can't help but agree with the sentiment that the west is kind of like the USSR was in 85.....We are approaching collapse, 5, 10 years, maybe more, but it's inevitable.

The system as it is can't rationally continue along using the same model. Those with brains know it...especially the technical or finance guys. It's why Gates...a tech guy....has been spending massive capital buying farm land (land holds up well against inflation and food production goes without saying)

The wealth/power elite just want to position themselves so that come the new model they are still the guys who hold the same status.

Even though they are the least deserving to.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Interesting post from the Wagner group.

Pro Russian sleeper cells encouraged to disrupt NATO in Europe.

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You really have swallowed the propaganda haven’t you! The west is not going to collapse. It will change, of course it will. Everything has to, to adapt and survive new circumstances. Evolutionary principles apply here just as much as anywhere.

What I suspect you mean is that the west as you remember it, and still want it to be, won’t exist anymore. That’s certainly true, but collapse it won’t.

We will have to get used to lower growth and be happy with what we have, rather than always demanding more. Lower birth rates, and migration flows as a result of climate change, will mean our ethnic mix will be different. That’s nothing new though. It’s been happening throughout my life.

If the 20th century belonged to the USA then the 21st will belong to China. That though doesn’t mean collapse. It means change, which you can either embrace and enjoy, or resist and be miserable.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.