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 PJEagle  London 04 Feb 23 11.11am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
PV may be the manager but as soon as a better opportunity comes by he'll be off....Derry's paid his dues at the club through some of its hardest times. Team Derry on this one......The club owned him more sensitivity and respect on his departure than this. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Feb 2023 11.06am) If Viera didn't agree with Derry's approach to the players, then he had to go. PV is a black manager handling largely black players. He should be able to manage players the way he wants
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Feb 23 11.12am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
PV may be the manager but as soon as a better opportunity comes by he'll be off....Derry's paid his dues at the club through some of its hardest times. Team Derry on this one......The club owned him more sensitivity and respect on his departure than this. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Feb 2023 11.06am) I agree PV will be gone in a year or two - people like Derry and McCarthy are the club.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Feb 23 11.14am |
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Originally posted by PJEagle
If Viera didn't agree with Derry's approach to the players, then he had to go. PV is a black manager handling largely black players. He should be able to manage players the way he wants What's that supposed to mean? White people can't comment? Most of us better stop posting. I'll post in a form of reggae or rap from now on.
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taylors lovechild  04 Feb 23 11.20am |
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There's one boss and if Derry overstepped the mark having been told not to then that's on him. It would be damaging to the squad and a sign of weakness if Vieira didn't stamp down on this as you could end up with players also challenging his authority. If Everton was a one off then I'd support Derry, but if he didn't heed warnings (as has been suggested) then Big Pat made the right decision. Despite a bit more clarity we're still probably not getting the full story anyway. One thing I would say is that for all his coolness you wouldn't f*ck with Vieira as he's absolutely massive. I remember Keane admitting that if the fight was outside the stadium Vieira would demolish him. What'll be interesting now is who Vieira brings in as his replacement, whether it's another Palace man, a promotion from within or someone else.
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| eritheagle Erith 04 Feb 23 11.22am |
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Originally posted by PJEagle
If Viera didn't agree with Derry's approach to the players, then he had to go. PV is a black manager handling largely black players. He should be able to manage players the way he wants What's the colour of the manager or player's skin got to do with anything!
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| Stirlingsays 04 Feb 23 11.26am |
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Originally posted by PJEagle
If Viera didn't agree with Derry's approach to the players, then he had to go. PV is a black manager handling largely black players. He should be able to manage players the way he wants I'm not sure what being black has to do with it. I'm not saying that the manager doesn't get to make the decisions....it's their neck on the line and Derry wasn't his man. No, my point was on how the club handled the departure....or rather seemingly just ignored it when Derry is an important figure....and with respect much more important than some Arsenal fly by nighter.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Feb 23 11.26am |
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Originally posted by taylors lovechild
There's one boss and if Derry overstepped the mark having been told not to then that's on him. It would be damaging to the squad and a sign of weakness if Vieira didn't stamp down on this as you could end up with players also challenging his authority. If Everton was a one off then I'd support Derry, but if he didn't heed warnings (as has been suggested) then Big Pat made the right decision. Despite a bit more clarity we're still probably not getting the full story anyway. One thing I would say is that for all his coolness you wouldn't f*ck with Vieira as he's absolutely massive. I remember Keane admitting that if the fight was outside the stadium Vieira would demolish him. What'll be interesting now is who Vieira brings in as his replacement, whether it's another Palace man, a promotion from within or someone else. My understanding is that a replacement is not planned.
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Lanzo-Ad  Lanzarote 04 Feb 23 11.26am |
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Maybe he said "you havent got a F*****g Clue" and was sacked for his honesty.
“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn |
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| Stirlingsays 04 Feb 23 11.27am |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I agree PV will be gone in a year or two - people like Derry and McCarthy are the club. Yep, I wonder how long McCarthy has.
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| PJEagle London 04 Feb 23 11.28am |
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Originally posted by taylors lovechild
There's one boss and if Derry overstepped the mark having been told not to then that's on him. It would be damaging to the squad and a sign of weakness if Vieira didn't stamp down on this as you could end up with players also challenging his authority. If Everton was a one off then I'd support Derry, but if he didn't heed warnings (as has been suggested) then Big Pat made the right decision. Despite a bit more clarity we're still probably not getting the full story anyway. One thing I would say is that for all his coolness you wouldn't f*ck with Vieira as he's absolutely massive. I remember Keane admitting that if the fight was outside the stadium Vieira would demolish him. What'll be interesting now is who Vieira brings in as his replacement, whether it's another Palace man, a promotion from within or someone else.
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| Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 04 Feb 23 11.32am |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
Maybe he said "you havent got a F*****g Clue" and was sacked for his honesty. And pointed out that Schlupp isn't a CM player, Olise is a winger, Eze is a No10, and the two strikers you bought are Pants, and 4-3-3 dosent work, it only took you about 15 games to work that out.
“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn |
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Feb 23 11.33am |
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Originally posted by PJEagle
Alex Ferguson didn't do very well with the hairdryer treatment either did he?
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