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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 01 Feb 19 12.07pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steve1984

Funny how the right consider the 19th Century to be the distant past.


What are you claiming exactly?

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 01 Feb 19 12.09pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steve1984

Funny how the right consider the 19th Century to be the distant past.

Distant is a relative term and you are avoiding the point as usual.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 01 Feb 19 12.12pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Jway89

I voted remain, having said that, I do understand the concerns that the leavers had/have. This is the problem with the politics we have; It's a system that is too old that does not keep up with the times. I hate voting for parties, because, it eventually pisses off 50% of the population. I would prefer a system where the population can vote on policies rather than a board of politicians to carry out whatever they want or something along those lines.
This system has delivered a higher population, but with less law enforcement, NHS staff and below par education across the board, whilst the big companies and millionaires, legally, it must be said, don't pay their full % in taxes.

Yep, the political system is out of date.....not that I've given its replacement anything over than about five minutes thinking.

When societies create power bases....and our political elites are at the top of the power base tree.....those bases never willingly give away those positions for free.

Turkeys don't vote for Christmas.

People don't get what they deserve, they get what they negotiate.....and if one party doesn't want to negotiate the conservation is ending pretty quickly.

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steve1984 01 Feb 19 12.15pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


What are you claiming exactly?

That the 19th Century isn't the distant past.

 

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steve1984 01 Feb 19 12.17pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Distant is a relative term and you are avoiding the point as usual.

I don't think I'm avoiding the point which was that crime is now at unprecedented levels, which it isn't.

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 01 Feb 19 12.19pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Anyway for some good news
[Link]
Let the remoaners spin a negative out of this

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 01 Feb 19 12.22pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steve1984

That the 19th Century isn't the distant past.

Well, it's certainly not the same society. So someone would have to be careful when they made like for like comparisons.

Comparing societies only really works if they are broadly similar and have the same variables.

If someone was doing it in recognition of the differences and accurately stating them then no doubt it could be done with those caveats.

 


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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 01 Feb 19 12.26pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

And of course Rise in crime has nothing to do with the cuts in police numbers

I wonder if the tories will boost police numbers when the country is booming post Brexit? What do you think?

..and of course rise in crime also has nothing to do with the increasingly liberal child raising ideas that they must all be allowed to express themselves, they must never be smacked to enforce any sort of discipline, and punishment is unacceptable so you have to 're-educate' them - and gently at that, so they don't feel isolated or victimized or any of the other trendy, touchy-feely, social expressions.

Result - a bunch of feral people, with big knives and guns who just laugh at law and order and the system because they no there is no real punishment or deterrent.

 


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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 01 Feb 19 12.35pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by becky

..and of course rise in crime also has nothing to do with the increasingly liberal child raising ideas that they must all be allowed to express themselves, they must never be smacked to enforce any sort of discipline, and punishment is unacceptable so you have to 're-educate' them - and gently at that, so they don't feel isolated or victimized or any of the other trendy, touchy-feely, social expressions.

Result - a bunch of feral people, with big knives and guns who just laugh at law and order and the system because they no there is no real punishment or deterrent.

Might do, might not. Who really knows.

Equally physical punishment could also have resulted in more respect, but also created anger management issues at a later age that increased the likelihood of domestic abuse or emotional instability.

Plus, I'm not sure that the parents of these rares (or parent, or no parent, more to the point) are really thinking about liberal values and disciplining their children. I think that's more likely to be the real reason. Plenty of middle class well to dos adopt the 'touchy feely' approach these days and I don't see them running around with knives gutting each other.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Online Flag Croydon 01 Feb 19 12.58pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Anyway for some good news
[Link]
Let the remoaners spin a negative out of this

It is good to see free movement will continue anyway........


 

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Oddbins has gone bust today and one of the reasons they gave was poor sales due to the uncertainty over Brexit.

Fancy a bottle of wine with dinner tonight? No thanks as I'm too worried about Brexit

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 01 Feb 19 1.18pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Anyway for some good news
[Link]
Let the remoaners spin a negative out of this

I'm not sure that is good news.

If EU citizens will be able to make short-term visits to the UK without a visa after Brexit takes place on 29 March......how is that stopping certain people with 'EU' citizenship coming into the country and then 'disappearing'?

 


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