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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 14 Jun 18 11.00pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by sprites

Just a heads up....you're presenting things as facts that are actually simply opinions or beliefs.

I could quite easily turn around and say the same. That I categorically know God exists. And I'd say that I do. But technically, it's still my belief system...not a fact.

It's not 'obvious' at all.

It is extremely unlikely that God exists.
If you want me to even care if God exists or not then you had better come up with some evidence to at least make the idea plausible.
The evidence is that God is a construct just like every other thing men have worshipped.

 

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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 14 Jun 18 11.55pm

If you still believe in god and the devil and the tooth fairy and Santa then you are clearly deranged. Grow up and see that wrestling isn’t real and that reality TV is all rigged as well while you’re at it.

 


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View sprites's Profile sprites Flag Auckland 15 Jun 18 4.07am Send a Private Message to sprites Add sprites as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

If you still believe in god and the devil and the tooth fairy and Santa then you are clearly deranged. Grow up and see that wrestling isn’t real and that reality TV is all rigged as well while you’re at it.

Think of that one all by yourself? Genius.

 

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View sprites's Profile sprites Flag Auckland 15 Jun 18 4.23am Send a Private Message to sprites Add sprites as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It is extremely unlikely that God exists.
If you want me to even care if God exists or not then you had better come up with some evidence to at least make the idea plausible.
The evidence is that God is a construct just like every other thing men have worshipped.

I'm really not all that bothered whether you care of not, to be honest. Not one of those new generation Chrissos that wants to save everyone's soul, don't worry. Besides, you don't seem very open to the idea at all.


Ultimately, if there was evidence for it, everyone would believe wouldn't they? So no, I've got no evidence for you. Maybe, just maybe, not absolutely everything in life has evidence.

I'd be interested to hear your evidence for God being a construct, though.

 

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Park Road Flag 15 Jun 18 5.34am

Originally posted by sprites

I'm really not all that bothered whether you care of not, to be honest. Not one of those new generation Chrissos that wants to save everyone's soul, don't worry. Besides, you don't seem very open to the idea at all.


Ultimately, if there was evidence for it, everyone would believe wouldn't they? So no, I've got no evidence for you. Maybe, just maybe, not absolutely everything in life has evidence.

I'd be interested to hear your evidence for God being a construct, though.

Norse gods, Greek, gods Zeus. God of the Sky
Hera. Goddess of Marriage, Mothers and Families
Poseidon. God of the Sea
Demeter. Goddess of Agriculture
Ares. God of War
Athena. ...
Apollo. ...
Artemis.

there are many more examples of Gods being a construct

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 15 Jun 18 5.51am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Ironically whomever you believe/ or not to be your god he/ she may be the last one you ask for when you heave your last breath.
Also it's a pretty strong construct if millions have and are dying for religion.

 

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Park Road Flag 15 Jun 18 6.00am

Originally posted by cryrst

Ironically whomever you believe/ or not to be your god he/ she may be the last one you ask for when you heave your last breath.
Also it's a pretty strong construct if millions have and are dying for religion.

No irony just human nature.

If you listen to what doctors, care workers, nurses- people who are with you while you gasp your last breath, you'll find that most reject their religion.


 

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Originally posted by Sheks Crows Eye

I've considered our family pet an option to sacrific when it comes to keeping Palace up.

Sod that,I love my dog too much they can have the other half...

 


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 15 Jun 18 7.29am

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Originally posted by sprites

I'm really not all that bothered whether you care of not, to be honest. Not one of those new generation Chrissos that wants to save everyone's soul, don't worry. Besides, you don't seem very open to the idea at all.


Ultimately, if there was evidence for it, everyone would believe wouldn't they? So no, I've got no evidence for you. Maybe, just maybe, not absolutely everything in life has evidence.

I'd be interested to hear your evidence for God being a construct, though.

We come from a Judeo-Christian tradition and I feel that and I'm not ashamed of it. In fact I fully recognise that it was the wiggle room for debate within those religions that allowed atheistic thinking to become widespread.....not forgetting the many people who were murdered for being heretics.

When criticising beliefs in personal gods it's easy to offend believers. This isn't always meant. I often think I shouldn't do it but then I remember that they are going to raise their children with this myth.

So essentially it's having a light go at mostly good people who are believing and pushing a myth.

So I get a bit conflicted by it.....If you genuinely follow the tenets of Christianity you are probably ethically better than most people.

So it's a balance between debating the reasonableness of personal god religions and not outright insulting people.

I'm not always great at balance.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 15 Jun 18 10.38am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by sprites

I'm really not all that bothered whether you care of not, to be honest. Not one of those new generation Chrissos that wants to save everyone's soul, don't worry. Besides, you don't seem very open to the idea at all.


Ultimately, if there was evidence for it, everyone would believe wouldn't they? So no, I've got no evidence for you. Maybe, just maybe, not absolutely everything in life has evidence.

I'd be interested to hear your evidence for God being a construct, though.

The evidence is in the fact that throughout history, humans have beleived in all sorts of tosh. They still beleive in all sorts of different tosh.

Saying that you can't prove God doesn't exist is not a reasonable argument for his existence. There are many things that you can't prove or disprove with any certainty.

More importantly. Why does it matter? You won't get into the afterlife by being a good God worshipper, Think about it. It is an absurd notion on so many levels.
By your reckoning. God made us, so any bad thing we do are his fault. Right?
I have wasted enough time on this nonsense.

 

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View Sheks Crows Eye's Profile Sheks Crows Eye Flag Virginia 15 Jun 18 4.12pm Send a Private Message to Sheks Crows Eye Add Sheks Crows Eye as a friend

Whats the point of believing in a god if he exists anyway? Shouldn't he have bigger fish to fry?

 

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