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 Rudi Hedman  Caterham 23 Jul 19 8.35am |
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I want to see May do another ‘country I love’ speech, or maybe one on ‘The just about managing JAMS.’ I want to hear her speak through quivering tears and her sad creased up face. What a terrible PM. The worst in living memory. Even if you removed Brexit it would be painful viewing.
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| W12 23 Jul 19 8.54am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
I want to see May do another ‘country I love’ speech, or maybe one on ‘The just about managing JAMS.’ I want to hear her speak through quivering tears and her sad creased up face. What a terrible PM. The worst in living memory. Even if you removed Brexit it would be painful viewing. Not as bad as Blair. He opened Pandora's box in terms of supporting the Iraq invasion, opening the country to mass immigration and spending huge amounts of future generations money by way of national dept (plus destroying our university education system). Both have continued unabated ever since. History will look very dimly on him (until it's re-written by the communists). May in contrast, was just spectacularly incompetent.
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cryrst  The garden of England 23 Jul 19 9.16am |
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Originally posted by W12
Not as bad as Blair. He opened Pandora's box in terms of supporting the Iraq invasion, opening the country to mass immigration and spending huge amounts of future generations money by way of national dept (plus destroying our university education system). Both have continued unabated ever since. History will look very dimly on him (until it's re-written by the communists). May in contrast, was just spectacularly incompetent. In power you cannot run with the hounds and play with the fox.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 23 Jul 19 9.34am |
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Originally posted by W12
Not as bad as Blair. He opened Pandora's box in terms of supporting the Iraq invasion, opening the country to mass immigration and spending huge amounts of future generations money by way of national dept (plus destroying our university education system). Both have continued unabated ever since. History will look very dimly on him (until it's re-written by the communists). May in contrast, was just spectacularly incompetent. True. Bliar benefitted from historically low interest rates in the US kept at pretty much 0.5% until ‘the credit crunch.’ Yes, he’s started off some problems with immigration after encouraging it from 2004 onwards.
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 becky over the moon 23 Jul 19 2.39pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
I want to see May do another ‘country I love’ speech, or maybe one on ‘The just about managing JAMS.’ I want to hear her speak through quivering tears and her sad creased up face. What a terrible PM. The worst in living memory. Even if you removed Brexit it would be painful viewing. If for nothing else, I do admire May for taking on the poisoned chalice of being Prime Minister that was left by Cameron.
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| Mapletree Croydon 23 Jul 19 2.56pm |
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Originally posted by becky
If for nothing else, I do admire May for taking on the poisoned chalice of being Prime Minister that was left by Cameron. Far too slow in taking one step back Becky. The others ran away quickly, May was too busy skipping through wheat fields until it was just too late.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Jul 19 3.58pm |
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An observation. Boris Johnson will become Prime Minister tomorrow. He has been put there by the votes of 0.14% of the people in the UK. That's 14 people in every 1000 have actually voted for him to do this job. It's even a tiny proportion of those who actually vote Tory. Can anyone even try to defend this? He doesn't represent the country. This is travesty of democracy. The only way a Prime Minister should be chosen is by the representatives we choose and send to Parliament
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 23 Jul 19 4.09pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
An observation. Boris Johnson will become Prime Minister tomorrow. He has been put there by the votes of 0.14% of the people in the UK. That's 14 people in every 1000 have actually voted for him to do this job. It's even a tiny proportion of those who actually vote Tory. Can anyone even try to defend this? He doesn't represent the country. This is travesty of democracy. The only way a Prime Minister should be chosen is by the representatives we choose and send to Parliament I agree that there should be an election. And in that election the Election Commission needs to make it compulsory that every candidate needs to lay out clearly their hard policy on Brexit. This won't happen as politicians are not to be trusted. Then it can be found out if there is a mandate for Boris, or not. I believe both Labour and Tory would suffer in this case.
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| Stirlingsays 23 Jul 19 4.26pm |
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Gordon Brown came to power the same way.....this has happened in our political system for centuries. The leaders of parties are decided by those parties. No one votes for a PM in an election anyway, they usually vote for parties far more than they do an individual. As for changing the system.....It's something I really don't have that much of a view on.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Jul 19 5.18pm |
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Gordon Brown did not come to power in the same way. He won an uncontested election held by Labour's NEC, which controls their general policy making. Whilst very far from perfect it nevertheless has the MPs involved and not the general membership. I think it is still very undemocratic and that the only way for a Prime Minister to be chosen is by those he will lead.
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| Midlands Eagle 23 Jul 19 5.27pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Whilst very far from perfect it nevertheless has the MPs involved and not the general membership. I think it is still very undemocratic and that the only way for a Prime Minister to be chosen is by those he will lead. The MPs were involved as they voted on quite a few candidates whittling down those who put themselves forward down to two and it was those two who were put t the general Conservative Party membership to vote on as leader of the Conservative Party
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 23 Jul 19 5.39pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Gordon Brown did not come to power in the same way. He won an uncontested election held by Labour's NEC, which controls their general policy making. Whilst very far from perfect it nevertheless has the MPs involved and not the general membership. I think it is still very undemocratic and that the only way for a Prime Minister to be chosen is by those he will lead. Shouldn’t have bothered.
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