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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 23 Feb 22 9.26am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Instead deals are being done with low welfare countries to export into the UK. Now it will be a race to the bottom. You wonít have to hear from moaning UK farmers in the future. Only giant agribusinesses will survive. And you can forget chicken welfare, it ainít happening.

Useless Eustace makes it clear he is tearing his hair out at the way trade deals have been rushed through in desperation to the massive detriment of UK farmers. Remember Liz Trussís embarrassing pork markets video. Well, take a look at the UK industry now.

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Farmers are losing £25 per pig. Needless to say that isnít a sustainable business.

I don't have a problem with importing cheap food however as a counter balance I would like our farmers to compete on quality and animal welfare. The consumer can then make the choice, buy British with higher standards or go low but our farmers who switch will need financial help.

Anyway if Boris doesn't do it then perhaps Labour will if they ever get in.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 23 Feb 22 10.21am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I don't have a problem with importing cheap food however as a counter balance I would like our farmers to compete on quality and animal welfare. The consumer can then make the choice, buy British with higher standards or go low but our farmers who switch will need financial help.

Anyway if Boris doesn't do it then perhaps Labour will if they ever get in.

It doesnít work that way. The market will buy cheap as most of it is processors and caterers not end consumers. UK farmers will be driven into a small niche whilst low cost, low welfare high methane countries benefit.

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 23 Feb 22 10.24am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I don't have a problem with importing cheap food however as a counter balance I would like our farmers to compete on quality and animal welfare. The consumer can then make the choice, buy British with higher standards or go low but our farmers who switch will need financial help.

Anyway if Boris doesn't do it then perhaps Labour will if they ever get in.

Switch to what? We are already world leading on quality and welfare.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 23 Feb 22 10.36am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Instead deals are being done with low welfare countries to export into the UK. Now it will be a race to the bottom. You wonít have to hear from moaning UK farmers in the future. Only giant agribusinesses will survive. And you can forget chicken welfare, it ainít happening.

Useless Eustace makes it clear he is tearing his hair out at the way trade deals have been rushed through in desperation to the massive detriment of UK farmers. Remember Liz Trussís embarrassing pork markets video. Well, take a look at the UK industry now.

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Farmers are losing £25 per pig. Needless to say that isnít a sustainable business.

People are just to find out what globalism and increasing population means.

We have screwed ourselves by becoming far too over reliant on imports from unreliable sources.
The paying more because it's British is something of a myth. All goods and services are priced based on what people can afford these days. If people have less disposable income after they get the essentials, then the 'luxury' stuff will come down in price.

The cost of services and trades have gone up far quicker than inflation because many have more disposable income to spend. It's all relative.
People waste money all over the place on overpriced electrical goods, takeaways, trainers and getting some bloke to fix your tap.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 23 Feb 22 11.44am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Totally agree with your last sentence on wasteful spending by people can't afford it and get into the debt spiral

 


If untruths and bllshit are allowed to flourish unchallenged the forum will be the worse for it.

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 23 Feb 22 12.58pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

the EU is not fit for purpose.

The sooner it dies, the better for everybody.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 23 Feb 22 1.43pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

The brexit opportunity has arrived, stop your searching.

It is the ability, provided by brexit, to eat cheap unhealthy imported food from countries where animals are reared by foul farming practices.

EU consumers however will be eating safe healthy food meeting their high quality standards.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 09 Mar 22 8.00am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

So as predicted ex Speaker John Bercow has been banned for life from Parliament after an independent investigation found he was a serial bully and liar, no surprise to anyone who came into his orbit.

Contrast his behaviour with our current speaker who is firm but fair telling off Boris one minute and Starmer the next.

The Labour party and others should hang their heads in shame. These allegations were well known by 2018 and yet Labour and other opposition parties plus Tory Remainers decided to keep him in his job.

If you look at today's papers they are littered with comments from Senior Labour party members at the time brushing off these allegations so much for sticking up for the the sisterhood Emily Thornberry and Margaret Beckett.

I know the Tories hated him because of perceived bias but this odious little man could and was eventually replaced by someone decent it didn't have to be a Brexiteer.

To make matters worse Labour allowed him to join their party after he stood down by which time the investigation was well under way, they could have told him he would have to wait. However belatedly they have now suspended him.

A bad show all around.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 09 Mar 22 8.16am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

So as predicted ex Speaker John Bercow has been banned for life from Parliament after an independent investigation found he was a serial bully and liar, no surprise to anyone who came into his orbit.

Contrast his behaviour with our current speaker who is firm but fair telling off Boris one minute and Starmer the next.

The Labour party and others should hang their heads in shame. These allegations were well known by 2018 and yet Labour and other opposition parties plus Tory Remainers decided to keep him in his job.

If you look at today's papers they are littered with comments from Senior Labour party members at the time brushing off these allegations so much for sticking up for the the sisterhood Emily Thornberry and Margaret Beckett.

I know the Tories hated him because of perceived bias but this odious little man could and was eventually replaced by someone decent it didn't have to be a Brexiteer.

To make matters worse Labour allowed him to join their party after he stood down by which time the investigation was well under way, they could have told him he would have to wait. However belatedly they have now suspended him.

A bad show all around.

Yep, we all remember the media and political support he had.

Lamentable.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 May 22 6.56am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Looks like the EU is finally realising that the one size fits all model may not be the best place to go.

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Macron is suggesting an outer group with the UK invited. Of course there is no detail at this stage but if he means a free trade bloc and the UK free to make its own decisions on matters not relating to the EU I am willing to listen.

The devil as they say is in the detail.

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 10 May 22 6.59am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Looks like the EU is finally realising that the one size fits all model may not be the best place to go.

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Macron is suggesting an outer group with the UK invited. Of course there is no detail at this stage but if he means a free trade bloc and the UK free to make its own decisions on matters not relating to the EU I am willing to listen.

The devil as they say is in the detail.

Interesting.

With your last line the crucial point here.

 


In 1967, when Polish mercenary Rafal Ganowicz was asked what it felt like to take human life, replied: "I wouldn't know, I've only ever killed communists."

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 May 22 3.01pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Looks like the EU is finally realising that the one size fits all model may not be the best place to go.

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Macron is suggesting an outer group with the UK invited. Of course there is no detail at this stage but if he means a free trade bloc and the UK free to make its own decisions on matters not relating to the EU I am willing to listen.

The devil as they say is in the detail.

Bound to happen due to another d word. Defence.
The only reliable military in the EU is (rather ironically) France - now the UK has gone. Good luck getting any of the others to step up.
The other reason will be exports. French wine etc. But also imports and the stupid rigaramole of buying anything from the UK now.
I bought a Super Patrick Viera t-shirt from this site. After import taxes and charges (I'm in Ireland) it was 40 euro. I didn't tell the missus. A tad expensive for a t-shirt.
My son bought me an Eagles hoody from the club shop - final price 60 euro.
Imagine being a business relying on British goods. Hoody took months as it had been returned to sender, duty not paid.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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