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View soulboy's Profile soulboy Flag Lewisham 04 Feb 19 12.21pm Send a Private Message to soulboy Add soulboy as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

I don't claim to be a leftist and I'm not anti white. In fact, I love white women

Have you checked your front lawn for a burning cross lately??

 


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Originally posted by soulboy

Stirling old boy,

WTF are you doing posting such garbage while Palace are in a relegation scrap with our rivals? Get a life!!


WTF are you doing talking about football on the News and Politics forum?

Get a brain cell.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays


WTF are you doing talking about football on the News and Politics forum?

Get a brain cell.

It's just that myself and the vast majority of Palace fans were either at the game (I was) listening to it on the radio or trying to watch a dodgy stream on the laptop while you post some rubbish to the News & Politics section in the belief others might wish to engage on a Saturday afternoon!! And you profess to be a Palace fan?

 


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Originally posted by soulboy

It's just that myself and the vast majority of Palace fans were either at the game (I was) listening to it on the radio or trying to watch a dodgy stream on the laptop while you post some rubbish to the News & Politics section in the belief others might wish to engage on a Saturday afternoon!! And you profess to be a Palace fan?


Haven't we heard this kind of illogical argument about a thousand times.

Have a peanut for repeating it.

I was at the Burnley game in 79 as a ten year old and have been posting on the Hol for nearly ten years. Take your 'no true Scotsman' dim witted fallacies to someone dim enough to believe them.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Feb 19 12.54pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

I've not been to a museum for at least a decade, so couldn't tell you what they are and aren't lacking ,but contributed to this thread to provide an alternative point of view to why people might want a museum catering to black history

I get it, but let's be frank. If Black people had built the Pyramids or had a civilization like ancient Rome for example, they would have a major place in history and lots of exhibits in museums.

As things are, I can understand that there might be less headline grabbing history related to Black people that might deserve airing and might be interesting, especially to Black people.
The trouble is that when you start labeling something 'Black history' and 'Black history museum' the obvious accusation is of double standards and racism.
White people can't have White museums without being accused of being racists or 'White supremacists' and all the usual outrage stuff. Truthfully, only a White supremacist would want a White only museum because normal people just don't think like that.

That is why having a 'Black' museum also seems rather inappropriate to most people.

 

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View orpingtoneagle's Profile orpingtoneagle Flag Orpington 04 Feb 19 1.13pm Send a Private Message to orpingtoneagle Add orpingtoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yeah....and the 'n' word only refers to a certain type of criminal black person nowadays...so we can use it without offence then?

Or are there double standards?

We all know the colour of gammon.

The colour of gammon depends on what it has been cured with or indeed smoked in. I have cured ham (which I accept we can safely establish the colour of,) in dark sugars and molasses and it comes out almost black.

But it's still gammon.

Bit like people - same inside just different colour outside.

 

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 04 Feb 19 1.17pm

Originally posted by madcap_v2


Ha nice try but not even in the slightest. A complete reach. It's a term to describe a right-wing, angry, middle-aged, white man. Would maybe be a bit racist if it was a lot less targeted x

A derogatory term for a white person, but not racist?

I believe the term comes from a comparison of an angry white person's face to a side of gammon.

It's the equivalent of referring to a black person as a chocolate face, which I'm sure we all agree is offensive and racist.

Both derogatory, both target skin colour, both food based...

Yet one is racist, and one not?

If there's one thing nobody respects it's judging others by a standard that you don't apply to yourself.

 

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Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

The colour of gammon depends on what it has been cured with or indeed smoked in. I have cured ham (which I accept we can safely establish the colour of,) in dark sugars and molasses and it comes out almost black.

But it's still gammon.

Bit like people - same inside just different colour outside.

God....it just gets more embarrassing.

The loops the left jump through to defend.....'it's alright when we do it'.

 


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 04 Feb 19 1.28pm

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

The colour of gammon depends on what it has been cured with or indeed smoked in. I have cured ham (which I accept we can safely establish the colour of,) in dark sugars and molasses and it comes out almost black.

But it's still gammon.

Bit like people - same inside just different colour outside.

Are you saying that you can apply the slur gammon to black people as they could be considered over cooked or stained gammon? Like they're actually white on the inside?

Isn't that a slur in itself? Like calling someone a choc-ice.

That's the thing about the type of person who thinks it's not racist to call someone Gammon: they don't understand prejudice, because despite their bleating they're ignorant.

 

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View soulboy's Profile soulboy Flag Lewisham 04 Feb 19 1.31pm Send a Private Message to soulboy Add soulboy as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Haven't we heard this kind of illogical argument about a thousand times.

Have a peanut for repeating it.

I was at the Burnley game in 79 as a ten year old and have been posting on the Hol for nearly ten years. Take your 'no true Scotsman' dim witted fallacies to someone dim enough to believe them.

The overwhelming membership criteria for this forum is that you SUPPORT Palace. It therefore follows that members will wish to watch or follow matches involving Palace, in particular at times of increased tension due to the prospect of relegation. Therefore any Palace fan posting drivel not associated with our fight for survival, on a Saturday afternoon deserves being called out. Or is my argument illogical?

 


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 04 Feb 19 1.33pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

God....it just gets more embarrassing.

The loops the left jump through to defend.....'it's alright when we do it'.

Ditto, I found that post staggeringly ignorant.

Imagine thinking in those terms? You can cure gammon to be black, and black people are black, therefore Gammon is universally insulting and therefore ok...

I cannot believe that as a society self respect has reached such an epic low that a white person can call another white person a derogatory name based on their colour, and MEAN it with hatred, and still avoid absolutely all self awareness on the matter.

Get a grip.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 04 Feb 19 1.36pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by soulboy

The overwhelming membership criteria for this forum is that you SUPPORT Palace. It therefore follows that members will wish to watch or follow matches involving Palace, in particular at times of increased tension due to the prospect of relegation. Therefore any Palace fan posting drivel not associated with our fight for survival, on a Saturday afternoon deserves being called out. Or is my argument illogical?

you are calling him a troll ? a troll is somebody who deviates from the theme of the thread.

pot and kettle.

 


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