Seriously Dan?

The point I was making is that my generation and all those before it successfully navigated our school years without phones because quite frankly they are not required.

Like I stated, they are a choice.

The youngsters who choose to own them...along with all the other footprint examples.... are playing their part in climate change while simultaneously complaining about it.

I made the point about inconvenience and hypocrisy as plain as possible.

The fact that I have to spell this point out to you is frankly annoying.....then again, I guess you do have a selective ear when it comes to hypocrisy don't you.

Any other obvious point you wish me to explain?

If the US wants to continue to be seen as a world leader, you have to take responsibility and lead by example. I'm sure it's an uncomfortable truth and doesn't fit the populist agenda of your leaders but these are the facts.

So you think we have two many people ? I like your thinking less immigrstion =less house building , car journeys and commuting. You've cracked it.

Greta seemed to blame the past

This thread shows exactly what the issues are. It's a lot easier to call it a conspiracy, or to pretend that the climate isn't changing, or that an ice-age is coming, or that there is no point because of China and India, instead of facing up to the realities of what our actions are doing to the planet.

So many of you claim to hate liberal snowflakes and yet you are literally being triggered by a 16 year old who is telling you the truth. Over 95% of scientists agree with the conclusion that humans are causing the climate to change. If you want to believe the head in the sand posters on the Holmesdale or the 5% of scientists who are being bankrolled by fossil fuel lobbyists then go ahead. Perhaps when the problems are at your door instead of affecting people in other countries you might stop being so selfish.