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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 11 Jul 22 1.22pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Surely it was the Geeks? For they will inherit Windows 11. A good online poll suggestion: would you prefer a severe Covid infection, or to have to use Windows 11? Close run thing I reckon. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 11 Jul 22 1.22pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Surely it was the Geeks?

For they will inherit Windows 11.

A good online poll suggestion: would you prefer a severe Covid infection, or to have to use Windows 11?

Close run thing I reckon.

Red and Blue Army!

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 11 Jul 22 1.24pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Nice try but the virus is getting weaker. So weak that an 80 year old with dementia doesn’t even know they have a cold. I can understand the frustration with the lack of tests. But then it’ll be lack of full sick pay and furlough. If I was at risk I’d have FFP3 masks and maybe stay away from certain situations during waves/peaks. I agree on ignorant parents. The women these days in cars should be banned from driving during pickup and drop off times. I agree. The virus is getting weaker. Coupled with the fact the really vulnerable are probably dead already. Again, only my own extremely limited experience in the scheme of things, but a lady in her late 70's (with typical medical conditions for age) is on her 3rd coronovirus infection (all fully vaccinated) and this , to her. is probably worse than the other 2 times she had it. The vast majority will be OK, but there will always be exceptions "The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Nice try but the virus is getting weaker. So weak that an 80 year old with dementia doesn’t even know they have a cold.

I can understand the frustration with the lack of tests. But then it’ll be lack of full sick pay and furlough. If I was at risk I’d have FFP3 masks and maybe stay away from certain situations during waves/peaks.

I agree on ignorant parents. The women these days in cars should be banned from driving during pickup and drop off times.

I agree. The virus is getting weaker. Coupled with the fact the really vulnerable are probably dead already.
Again, only my own extremely limited experience in the scheme of things, but a lady in her late 70's (with typical medical conditions for age) is on her 3rd coronovirus infection (all fully vaccinated) and this , to her. is probably worse than the other 2 times she had it.
The vast majority will be OK, but there will always be exceptions

"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Jul 22 1.33pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly I agree. The virus is getting weaker. Coupled with the fact the really vulnerable are probably dead already. Again, only my own extremely limited experience in the scheme of things, but a lady in her late 70's (with typical medical conditions for age) is on her 3rd coronovirus infection (all fully vaccinated) and this , to her. is probably worse than the other 2 times she had it. The vast majority will be OK, but there will always be exceptions Yes but that’s it with restrictions. What’s the availability of tests around Europe? COYP
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Caterham 11 Jul 22 1.33pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Yes but that’s it with restrictions. What’s the availability of tests around Europe?

COYP

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Grumbles 11 Jul 22 2.18pm
Where is the science that any virus variants HAVE to get weaker over time?
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Grumbles 11 Jul 22 2.18pm

Where is the science that any virus variants HAVE to get weaker over time?

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W12 11 Jul 22 9.41pm
Originally posted by Grumbles Where is the science that any virus variants HAVE to get weaker over time? Because killing their host is a bad survival technique. At least that’s the accepted theory which I would doubt anyway. Why would you stop asking more fundamental questions: Edited by W12 (11 Jul 2022 9.41pm) Attachment: A8A2359F-CF06-4EE0-A713-1D5BBCF1000F.jpeg (93.17Kb)
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Originally posted by Grumbles

Where is the science that any virus variants HAVE to get weaker over time?

Because killing their host is a bad survival technique. At least that’s the accepted theory which I would doubt anyway.

Why would you stop asking more fundamental questions:

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W12 13 Jul 22 12.07am
I don’t give a s* about who’s wrong or right but seek some help if you are getting sick or anything unusual in the middle of July (like many people I know). This includes persistent cold/flu like symptoms and heart related or anything out of the ordinary. There are things that can be done. PM me if you want although I’m no doctor. Attachment**: trim.57406C8A-44AE-4629-9084-430DFBA1DBBF.MOV (13,022.66Kb)
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I don’t give a s*** about who’s wrong or right but seek some help if you are getting sick or anything unusual in the middle of July (like many people I know). This includes persistent cold/flu like symptoms and heart related or anything out of the ordinary. There are things that can be done. PM me if you want although I’m no doctor.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Jul 22 12.12am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Nice try but the virus is getting weaker. So weak that an 80 year old with dementia doesn’t even know they have a cold. I can understand the frustration with the lack of tests. But then it’ll be lack of full sick pay and furlough. If I was at risk I’d have FFP3 masks and maybe stay away from certain situations during waves/peaks. I agree on ignorant parents. The women these days in cars should be banned from driving during pickup and drop off times. Is it getting weaker, or are the vaccinations just mitigating its impact? Whatever is the truth, there is little doubt the number of infections has markedly increased. Whilst the impact on individuals is now generally much milder, the impact on the NHS is not. It's putting it under tremendous strain, for two reasons. Firstly, because of staff absences. The NHS is significantly understaffed at the best of times, but having large numbers off work with Covid means many things cannot be done, causing further backlogs. Secondly, because of the need to care for Covid positive patients separately and differently. This limits numbers, forces wards to be re-organised and staff re-deployed. A friend of mine had a heart attack 15 years ago and had stents fitted. He now has regular blood tests to confirm all is well. Last week, after a test, he was summoned urgently by the hospital because his test result indicated he had had another attack, which he was unaware of. Further tests suggest the stents are becoming blocked and need replacing, so now he is in hospital, being observed to await this procedure. However, because of staff shortages and a queue of 18 in front of him, he will be there for at least 3 weeks. Taking up a bed just because of the delays caused by Covid. It's the impact on the NHS which is important, and not the impact on individuals. It always was, but even more these days, now most of us (at least the responsible ones) have been vaccinated. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 13 Jul 22 12.12am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Nice try but the virus is getting weaker. So weak that an 80 year old with dementia doesn’t even know they have a cold.

I agree on ignorant parents. The women these days in cars should be banned from driving during pickup and drop off times.

Is it getting weaker, or are the vaccinations just mitigating its impact?

Whatever is the truth, there is little doubt the number of infections has markedly increased. Whilst the impact on individuals is now generally much milder, the impact on the NHS is not. It's putting it under tremendous strain, for two reasons.

Firstly, because of staff absences. The NHS is significantly understaffed at the best of times, but having large numbers off work with Covid means many things cannot be done, causing further backlogs. Secondly, because of the need to care for Covid positive patients separately and differently. This limits numbers, forces wards to be re-organised and staff re-deployed.

A friend of mine had a heart attack 15 years ago and had stents fitted. He now has regular blood tests to confirm all is well. Last week, after a test, he was summoned urgently by the hospital because his test result indicated he had had another attack, which he was unaware of. Further tests suggest the stents are becoming blocked and need replacing, so now he is in hospital, being observed to await this procedure. However, because of staff shortages and a queue of 18 in front of him, he will be there for at least 3 weeks. Taking up a bed just because of the delays caused by Covid.

It's the impact on the NHS which is important, and not the impact on individuals. It always was, but even more these days, now most of us (at least the responsible ones) have been vaccinated.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 13 Jul 22 12.30am
Originally posted by Grumbles Where is the science that any virus variants HAVE to get weaker over time? Are you scared of dying of the Spanish flu? Why not? It killed far more in 1918 than died in the whole of WW1. It's had over a hundred years to produce a stronger strain. Viruses evolve all the time but so do immune systems. Stronger strains can happen but it's just unlikely over time. A new virus will emerge that kills a lot of healthy people....it happens generationally....even when it's not cooked up in a lab. But the reason it'll kill a lot of healthy people will be do to our immune systems not recognising what it's dealing with....rather than an old virus developing a stronger strain. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Jul 2022 12.30am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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13 Jul 22 12.30am

Originally posted by Grumbles

Where is the science that any virus variants HAVE to get weaker over time?

Are you scared of dying of the Spanish flu?

Why not? It killed far more in 1918 than died in the whole of WW1.

It's had over a hundred years to produce a stronger strain.

Viruses evolve all the time but so do immune systems. Stronger strains can happen but it's just unlikely over time.

A new virus will emerge that kills a lot of healthy people....it happens generationally....even when it's not cooked up in a lab.

But the reason it'll kill a lot of healthy people will be do to our immune systems not recognising what it's dealing with....rather than an old virus developing a stronger strain.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Jul 2022 12.30am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 15 Jul 22 3.52pm
This clip was made when Jeremy Hunt was still in the running for PM. I think after watching it I now understand why Wisbech was such a fan of his: [Link] 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Jul 22 3.52pm

This clip was made when Jeremy Hunt was still in the running for PM.

I think after watching it I now understand why Wisbech was such a fan of his:

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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