I'm Andy Fly Me
Register | Edit Profile | Subscriptions | Forum Rules | Log In | RSS Feed
 Tim Gypsy Hill '64  Stoke sub normal 05 Oct 22 1.23am |
  |
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It isn't! No-one encourages. Quite the reverse. Nor does anyone "cut up bodies". Surgery is the very last step of a long journey. No it isn't. The first thing my friend wanted was to stop menstruating. Which requires surgery. That was the first time a problem ever arose. The next problem was when puberty really kicked in and breasts formed, which were painfully strapped flat to the chest. They were the next thing needing to be sugically removed to feel normal. Which all happened at school age. The problem is that the campaigning would allow confused children to be given steroids to suppress normal development. This is why the Tavistock was closed down, but others will take it's place. As an aside, the steroids given to transgender people are for life. They have to keep taking them even after surgery. Steroids are known to cause mental imbalance leading to violence and suicide.
Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers |
|
 Alert a moderator to this post |
  |
| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 05 Oct 22 1.33am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It just isn't true. It's a commonly held myth. 72%% of trans men state they don't want surgery. How many have you actually spent any time with and had them explain their emotions, motivations and intentions? Why do you think 72% of trans men don't want surgery? Please tell us or link to the survey or discussion. And tell us how many you have actually spent any time with and had them explain their emotions, motivations and intentions. Also, why do you think that two of your family are transgender? It's an extremely rare condition that is most likely linked to defective genes. Were there transgender ancestors in your family tree?
Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Stirlingsays 05 Oct 22 1.33am |
 |
|---|---|
|
When you read what these people promote, what side of an issue they always fall on under the guise of progress, you come to realise that they seek to destroy our way of life, traditions and history. That's essentially what Englishness or what Britishness is. Transgenderism is just one plank of their philosophy. Outside of Europe these people wouldn't last five minutes in most countries. They took advantage of our liberalism to pervert it. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Oct 2022 3.37am)
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Badger11 Beckenham 05 Oct 22 8.02am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Originally posted by Badger11
Oh sure the Trans community will love it. I expect they will point out it should be a Yellow star instead of a card.[/quote I already use an ID card to gain access to certain toilets because of a medical condition and do so without any shame. So I see no reason to suppose what you say is true.] I invite you to post your suggestion on a Trans social media board see how you get on. The very loud Trans activists want the government to change the law so that anybody at any time can declare themselves Trans without any form of medial or legal process. Do you think those people will be happy having to carry a medical card?
One more point |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Spiderman Horsham 05 Oct 22 9.22am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
. Complaining about a lack of privacy has nothing to do with transphobia. Only if you specifically stated you objected to associating with transgenders would that be true. I provided circumstantial evidence to back up my opinion. I doubt whether anything more substantial exists. Where was this circumstantial evidences from?
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Spiderman Horsham 05 Oct 22 9.25am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No it isn’t. Transgenderism is an internal sense, not a physical act. Transvestites simply like to dress in women’s clothes. So those who don’t want surgery, are men who like dressing in womens clothes ie transvestites. Edited by Spiderman (05 Oct 2022 9.27am)
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Oct 22 9.39am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64
No it isn't. The first thing my friend wanted was to stop menstruating. Which requires surgery. That was the first time a problem ever arose. The next problem was when puberty really kicked in and breasts formed, which were painfully strapped flat to the chest. They were the next thing needing to be sugically removed to feel normal. Which all happened at school age. The problem is that the campaigning would allow confused children to be given steroids to suppress normal development. This is why the Tavistock was closed down, but others will take it's place. As an aside, the steroids given to transgender people are for life. They have to keep taking them even after surgery. Steroids are known to cause mental imbalance leading to violence and suicide. This discussion has centred on male to female transgenderism and my remarks were in that context. Female to male has not yet been mentioned, except by yourself and is something I am less informed on. My younger grandchild is not as far down the road and iI haven’t had the same conversations with them as I have with the older one. Indeed any conversations we have had have been with my wife, in confidence, and not with me. The problems found at Tavistock are regarded as a steppingstone stone to better support. They aren’t defended. I am not a clinician but I trust those that are understand the effects of every medication they prescribe. They are the experts. I am not so make no judgment. As you have more direct experience of the impact of the attitudes of others on female to male transgenders what is your view on what facilities they should use?
For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally. |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Matov 05 Oct 22 9.52am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Stirlingsays
When you read what these people promote, what side of an issue they always fall on under the guise of progress, you come to realise that they seek to destroy our way of life, traditions and history. That's essentially what Englishness or what Britishness is. Transgenderism is just one plank of their philosophy. Outside of Europe these people wouldn't last five minutes in most countries. They took advantage of our liberalism to pervert it. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Oct 2022 3.37am) It is about destroying humanity. Promoting sterility as a life-style choice. Literal evil. And transgenderism is the logical conclusion of that. Lesbians and Gay men can still have children. In fact many of seem desperate to replicate the family ideal, in their own messed up way because that is what the ideal way of living is. No matter how the vision of some celebrity Gay couple showing off the kids in public before handing them over to the hired help to raise may induce nausea, at least it is a modicum of family life. Trans people are literally rendered incapable of that. The ultimate expression of the Progressive movement. And why they target the young. Probably the most at-risk group of falling for this Santatic movement.
Edited by Matov (05 Oct 2022 9.53am)
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Stirlingsays 05 Oct 22 11.26am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Matov
It is about destroying humanity. Promoting sterility as a life-style choice. Literal evil. And transgenderism is the logical conclusion of that. Lesbians and Gay men can still have children. In fact many of seem desperate to replicate the family ideal, in their own messed up way because that is what the ideal way of living is. No matter how the vision of some celebrity Gay couple showing off the kids in public before handing them over to the hired help to raise may induce nausea, at least it is a modicum of family life. Trans people are literally rendered incapable of that. The ultimate expression of the Progressive movement. And why they target the young. Probably the most at-risk group of falling for this Santatic movement. Edited by Matov (05 Oct 2022 9.53am) Nail on head..
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Oct 22 12.05pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64
Why do you think 72% of trans men don't want surgery? Please tell us or link to the survey or discussion. And tell us how many you have actually spent any time with and had them explain their emotions, motivations and intentions. Also, why do you think that two of your family are transgender? It's an extremely rare condition that is most likely linked to defective genes. Were there transgender ancestors in your family tree? I picked one article of several on this, I am sure you can find the others if you choose to:- Until relatively recently, my information on this subject was very limited and impacted by the kind of instinctive prejudice in this thread. Then I spent a couple of weeks with my eldest grandchild, who came to stay with me whilst my wife was abroad. Whilst my daughter had provided some explanations, this was the first time we had discussed this in great detail as they have been at Uni for 3 years and not visited here. We spent a long time exploring the subject. They are highly intelligent and articulate, and what was said opened my eyes and then caused me to do more research when they left. Whilst they are the only (apart from the younger one) transgender I have had, so far as I am aware, any close contact with, they themselves have had much more, and as I trust them implicitly, what they told me, I believe. So, whilst no expert, I am now much better informed both by these conversations and the research. So far as I know, there is no family history on my side, nor on that of the maternal grandmother. I have little to no knowledge on the side of my son-in-law. They are both obviously interested to understand why this might happen to siblings, and have researched it. It seems likely to be caused by a hormone imbalance in my daughter, but as a non-expert I am only passing on what I have been told.
For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally. |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Oct 22 12.16pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Stirlingsays
When you read what these people promote, what side of an issue they always fall on under the guise of progress, you come to realise that they seek to destroy our way of life, traditions and history. That's essentially what Englishness or what Britishness is. Transgenderism is just one plank of their philosophy. Outside of Europe these people wouldn't last five minutes in most countries. They took advantage of our liberalism to pervert it. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Oct 2022 3.37am) When people deliberately confuse support, advice and love with "promotion", you come to realise that the use of our great language can be twisted to support their prejudices, and attempt to destroy our way of life, and tradition of tolerance. The essence of Britishness is having respect for others. Transgenderism is but one of the others.
For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally. |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Oct 22 12.19pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Spiderman
So those who don’t want surgery, are men who like dressing in womens clothes ie transvestites. Edited by Spiderman (05 Oct 2022 9.27am) No. Transvestites are simply men who like to dress in women's clothes. Transgenders are people whose bodies don't match their sexuality. It is about how they feel, not how they look. Whether, or not, they opt for surgery is another matter.
For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally. |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
Login / Register
All images and text on this site are copyright © 1999-2023 The Holmesdale Online, unless otherwise stated.
Web Design by Guntrisoft Ltd.