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europalace Europe 31 Jul 18 7.30pm
Originally posted by elgrande Really,because I drive a lorry and deliver to a lot of supermarket depots. And they are all nearly 80% eastern European. Nothing wrong with that,I talk and have a good laugh with them. BUT.and here's the big thing I ask them how they manage to pay rent and live on their wages. The majority of them live in shared house's 6/8/10 in the house sharing bills. Nothing wrong with that good luck to them. But the point being a married couple with say 1child can't afford to on the wages they pay. But as long as the "big corporations" keep paying s*** wages it will continue, because they know they have an endless supply of cheap labour. Many EU citizens who live in the UK also have young families and they manage just fine. What's the problem for the equivalent British? I think it's that they expect too much too soon rather than plan long term. I've lived and worked in several other EU countries and what I've experienced is that young people don't have the same material demands as their peers in the UK. For example, there's no big demand to buy property, people generally rent until their 30's or 40s and have a nice life doing so. They don't expect to have fancy car, just something basic as a means of transport. Plenty of other similar differences in expectations which makes them much happier as they get less disappointed. Edited by europalace (31 Jul 2018 7.30pm)
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Europe 31 Jul 18 7.30pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Really,because I drive a lorry and deliver to a lot of supermarket depots.
And they are all nearly 80% eastern European.
Nothing wrong with that,I talk and have a good laugh with them.
BUT.and here's the big thing I ask them how they manage to pay rent and live on their wages.
The majority of them live in shared house's 6/8/10 in the house sharing bills.
Nothing wrong with that good luck to them.
But the point being a married couple with say 1child can't afford to on the wages they pay.
But as long as the "big corporations" keep paying s*** wages it will continue, because they know they have an endless supply of cheap labour.

Many EU citizens who live in the UK also have young families and they manage just fine. What's the problem for the equivalent British? I think it's that they expect too much too soon rather than plan long term. I've lived and worked in several other EU countries and what I've experienced is that young people don't have the same material demands as their peers in the UK. For example, there's no big demand to buy property, people generally rent until their 30's or 40s and have a nice life doing so. They don't expect to have fancy car, just something basic as a means of transport. Plenty of other similar differences in expectations which makes them much happier as they get less disappointed.

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.TUX. 31 Jul 18 7.47pm
Originally posted by europalace How's that the case? EU citizens living and working in the UK have the same cost of living as 'local' British citizens. The fact that they might not demand big flat screen TV's, new cars, the lateset smartphone and other luxuries when they are 20 years old might be a clue. Edited by europalace (31 Jul 2018 7.19pm) As we know, a huge portion don't. A portion that affects the lives of many who were are already here. Many live seven to a bed in a 2 bed flat (a joke, but i hope you get the gist) and in all honesty i don't blame them. If that's what they have to do to improve their prospects along with their families (maybe) then go for it. It's just a shame that they can't do the same in their own country of (European) birth...........particularly after many many years of being in the 'bloc'. Funny that? Buy Litecoin.
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31 Jul 18 7.47pm

Originally posted by europalace

How's that the case? EU citizens living and working in the UK have the same cost of living as 'local' British citizens. The fact that they might not demand big flat screen TV's, new cars, the lateset smartphone and other luxuries when they are 20 years old might be a clue.

Edited by europalace (31 Jul 2018 7.19pm)

As we know, a huge portion don't. A portion that affects the lives of many who were are already here.
Many live seven to a bed in a 2 bed flat (a joke, but i hope you get the gist) and in all honesty i don't blame them. If that's what they have to do to improve their prospects along with their families (maybe) then go for it. It's just a shame that they can't do the same in their own country of (European) birth...........particularly after many many years of being in the 'bloc'.

Funny that?

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 31 Jul 18 7.50pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 There are no fools like old leave fools. Desperate clutching at straws. Perhaps they will tell us how not having anyone to pick fruit and vegetables for us, can impact on youngsters job and home prospects. The youngsters clearly do not. Serve the old codgers right if they starve. Yeah, the fruit rotted on the trees and the vegetables lay decomposing in the fields before we joined the EU. To be honest, I don't know how we as a country survived, let alone prospered, before Europe. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 31 Jul 18 7.50pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

There are no fools like old leave fools.

Desperate clutching at straws.

Perhaps they will tell us how not having anyone to pick fruit and vegetables for us, can impact on youngsters job and home prospects.

The youngsters clearly do not.

Serve the old codgers right if they starve.

Yeah, the fruit rotted on the trees and the vegetables lay decomposing in the fields before we joined the EU.

To be honest, I don't know how we as a country survived, let alone prospered, before Europe.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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steeleye20 Croydon 31 Jul 18 8.01pm
Would any of the leave elderly brexit experts care to tell us how the army will stockpile fresh fruit and vegetables? Do they realise that fresh fruit and veg are essential to our diet, not when frozen thank you. Although leave yearn for Dad's Army and digging for victory against the EU we are not actually going to war (sorry about that leave). Did anybody think from leave that fresh food supplies could be a threat, or was it another thing that they just never even considered at all, just their selfishness. Like the whole brexit fiasco.
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Croydon 31 Jul 18 8.01pm

Would any of the leave elderly brexit experts care to tell us how the army will stockpile fresh fruit and vegetables?

Do they realise that fresh fruit and veg are essential to our diet, not when frozen thank you.

Although leave yearn for Dad's Army and digging for victory against the EU we are not actually going to war (sorry about that leave).

Did anybody think from leave that fresh food supplies could be a threat, or was it another thing that they just never even considered at all, just their selfishness.

Like the whole brexit fiasco.

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 31 Jul 18 8.41pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Would any of the leave elderly brexit experts care to tell us how the army will stockpile fresh fruit and vegetables? Do they realise that fresh fruit and veg are essential to our diet, not when frozen thank you. Although leave yearn for Dad's Army and digging for victory against the EU we are not actually going to war (sorry about that leave). Did anybody think from leave that fresh food supplies could be a threat, or was it another thing that they just never even considered at all, just their selfishness. Like the whole brexit fiasco. One of the very best things about Brexit is how it so utterly pisses off people like you. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 31 Jul 18 8.41pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Would any of the leave elderly brexit experts care to tell us how the army will stockpile fresh fruit and vegetables?

Do they realise that fresh fruit and veg are essential to our diet, not when frozen thank you.

Although leave yearn for Dad's Army and digging for victory against the EU we are not actually going to war (sorry about that leave).

Did anybody think from leave that fresh food supplies could be a threat, or was it another thing that they just never even considered at all, just their selfishness.

Like the whole brexit fiasco.

One of the very best things about Brexit is how it so utterly pisses off people like you.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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.TUX. 31 Jul 18 9.22pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Would any of the leave elderly brexit experts care to tell us how the army will stockpile fresh fruit and vegetables? Do they realise that fresh fruit and veg are essential to our diet, not when frozen thank you. Although leave yearn for Dad's Army and digging for victory against the EU we are not actually going to war (sorry about that leave). Did anybody think from leave that fresh food supplies could be a threat, or was it another thing that they just never even considered at all, just their selfishness. Like the whole brexit fiasco. You're too bright to keep falling for this (propaganda) crap. Buy Litecoin.
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31 Jul 18 9.22pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Would any of the leave elderly brexit experts care to tell us how the army will stockpile fresh fruit and vegetables?

Do they realise that fresh fruit and veg are essential to our diet, not when frozen thank you.

Although leave yearn for Dad's Army and digging for victory against the EU we are not actually going to war (sorry about that leave).

Did anybody think from leave that fresh food supplies could be a threat, or was it another thing that they just never even considered at all, just their selfishness.

Like the whole brexit fiasco.

You're too bright to keep falling for this (propaganda) crap.

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Stirlingsays 31 Jul 18 10.19pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt One of the very best things about Brexit is how it so utterly pisses off people like you. Seconded. It was also the best thing about Trump winning.....I mean I'm not a republican but god.....when you see who were most annoyed about Trump winning....You just knew that Trump was a necessary brake on madness. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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31 Jul 18 10.19pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

One of the very best things about Brexit is how it so utterly pisses off people like you.

Seconded.

It was also the best thing about Trump winning.....I mean I'm not a republican but god.....when you see who were most annoyed about Trump winning....You just knew that Trump was a necessary brake on madness.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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steeleye20 Croydon 31 Jul 18 10.29pm
Originally posted by .TUX. You're too bright to keep falling for this (propaganda) crap. Propaganda it is not.
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Croydon 31 Jul 18 10.29pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

You're too bright to keep falling for this (propaganda) crap.

Propaganda it is not.

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the.universal 31 Jul 18 10.50pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt One of the very best things about Brexit is how it so utterly pisses off people like you. Personally I have come to terms with the Brexit vote not going the way I went for. Let’s get on with it and see how it goes. I think some on the leave side do themselves no favours though. There is no ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ on this debate, it’s just your view. Firstly, no one on this website (on either side) had a clear idea of exactly what they were voting for, or against, bar none. If you disagree with that, I’d remind you the terms have not yet been agreed. So, Brexit may or may not be good for us, it’s far too early to say. Vive le Roy!
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the.universal 31 Jul 18 10.50pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

One of the very best things about Brexit is how it so utterly pisses off people like you.

Personally I have come to terms with the Brexit vote not going the way I went for. Let’s get on with it and see how it goes.

I think some on the leave side do themselves no favours though. There is no ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ on this debate, it’s just your view.

Firstly, no one on this website (on either side) had a clear idea of exactly what they were voting for, or against, bar none. If you disagree with that, I’d remind you the terms have not yet been agreed.

So, Brexit may or may not be good for us, it’s far too early to say.

Vive le Roy!

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.TUX. 31 Jul 18 10.51pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Propaganda it is not. Ok. Buy Litecoin.
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31 Jul 18 10.51pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Propaganda it is not.

Ok.

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.TUX. 31 Jul 18 11.02pm
Originally posted by the.universal Personally I have come to terms with the Brexit vote not going the way I went for. Let’s get on with it and see how it goes. I think some on the leave side do themselves no favours though. There is no ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ on this debate, it’s just your view. Firstly, no one on this website (on either side) had a clear idea of exactly what they were voting for, or against, bar none. If you disagree with that, I’d remind you the terms have not yet been agreed. So, Brexit may or may not be good for us, it’s far too early to say. That's a tad disingenuos as i did (sorry to p-ss on your parade). Any 'ideal' borne from debt let alone continuing down that path to the constant detriment of the masses is far from 'ideal'. The EU is nothing more than an extension of any given govt. Too much govt, as history shows, is never a good thing for the populous. Buy Litecoin.
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31 Jul 18 11.02pm

Originally posted by the.universal

Personally I have come to terms with the Brexit vote not going the way I went for. Let’s get on with it and see how it goes.

I think some on the leave side do themselves no favours though. There is no ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ on this debate, it’s just your view.

Firstly, no one on this website (on either side) had a clear idea of exactly what they were voting for, or against, bar none. If you disagree with that, I’d remind you the terms have not yet been agreed.

So, Brexit may or may not be good for us, it’s far too early to say.

That's a tad disingenuos as i did (sorry to p-ss on your parade).
Any 'ideal' borne from debt let alone continuing down that path to the constant detriment of the masses is far from 'ideal'.
The EU is nothing more than an extension of any given govt. Too much govt, as history shows, is never a good thing for the populous.

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DANGERCLOSE london 31 Jul 18 11.06pm
I think sack may and put Rees-mogg or Boris in charge to sort things out imo
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london 31 Jul 18 11.06pm

I think sack may and put Rees-mogg or Boris in charge to sort things out imo

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