Coronavirus and the impact of Lockdown policy
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 Stirlingsays  08 Jun 23 7.17pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Of course, is true, but not the point. Children have years ahead to recover. Those who might have died if we didn't lockdown would just be dead. The lockdowns made no difference in the longer term. That was stated at the time. All people like you did was ruin the future for generations for your own selfishness. There will be no lockdowns in the future precisely because it's now acknowledged to be a disaster.
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Teddy Eagle  08 Jun 23 9.29pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There wasn't much dancing at our local hospital. Just a lot of sick people and a very stressed staff. They still are stressed.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Jun 23 10.46pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The lockdowns made no difference in the longer term. That was stated at the time. All people like you did was ruin the future for generations for your own selfishness. There will be no lockdowns in the future precisely because it's now acknowledged to be a disaster. Who do you claim "stated" that? I don't anyone did, or could. because no one knows what would have happened if we didn't lockdown. We know what happened in other places that responded in other ways, but not here, in our circumstances, because we didn't do it. It's all speculation by politically motivated know-it-alls. I have no more idea than you how we would respond to a future similar pandemic. It would all depend on our circumstances at the time, particularly the state of the NHS and its capacity to cope. We would have learned from this crisis and no doubt will modify how we do things, especially the timing and the messaging, but if we need to put a break on a fast-rising rate of transmission I am sure we would lock down again. Perhaps even tighter than before but for a shorter time.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Jun 23 10.49pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Of course true, but just about all are short of staff and under pressure. The only question is to what degree.
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| Teddy Eagle 09 Jun 23 8.24am |
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| Stirlingsays 09 Jun 23 10.40am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Who do you claim "stated" that? I don't anyone did, or could. because no one knows what would have happened if we didn't lockdown. We know what happened in other places that responded in other ways, but not here, in our circumstances, because we didn't do it. It's all speculation by politically motivated know-it-alls. I have no more idea than you how we would respond to a future similar pandemic. It would all depend on our circumstances at the time, particularly the state of the NHS and its capacity to cope. We would have learned from this crisis and no doubt will modify how we do things, especially the timing and the messaging, but if we need to put a break on a fast-rising rate of transmission I am sure we would lock down again. Perhaps even tighter than before but for a shorter time. The Great Barrington declaration stated that, I and many others stated that. Your politics has ruined future generations.....usually it's in social metrics but here the sector is financial.
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| Eden Eagle Kent 09 Jun 23 1.40pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Who do you claim "stated" that? I don't anyone did, or could. because no one knows what would have happened if we didn't lockdown. We know what happened in other places that responded in other ways, but not here, in our circumstances, because we didn't do it. It's all speculation by politically motivated know-it-alls. I have no more idea than you how we would respond to a future similar pandemic. It would all depend on our circumstances at the time, particularly the state of the NHS and its capacity to cope. We would have learned from this crisis and no doubt will modify how we do things, especially the timing and the messaging, but if we need to put a break on a fast-rising rate of transmission I am sure we would lock down again. Perhaps even tighter than before but for a shorter time. There is very little chance that any possible future lockdown would be adhered to by the public.
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| Teddy Eagle 09 Jun 23 2.03pm |
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Originally posted by Eden Eagle
There is very little chance that any possible future lockdown would be adhered to by the public. No, there isn't. The fear factor isn't there any more however much those in government attempt to "frighten the pants off everyone".
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 09 Jun 23 2.12pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
No, there isn't. The fear factor isn't there any more however much those in government attempt to "frighten the pants off everyone". Whilst Boris was making life-or-death decisions pi$$ed off his tlt5 with the rest of the Government in their 'working groups'.
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| eaglesdare 09 Jun 23 2.34pm |
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Boris had the right idea at the start. No lockdown just keep calm and carry on and the herd immunity will take care of it self. But his lord and masters, those in the background and the WEF had alternative agendas. Money was to be made by the elites! He knew it was all joke like most sane people but I felt his hands were tied. Anyways its all done and dusted now and the masks have well and truly slipped on people. They have showed that we arnt far off being communist, fascist and totalitarian states. At least Russia, north korea and china dont try to hide what they are which is what the west mostly does.
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| Stirlingsays 09 Jun 23 2.49pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
Boris had the right idea at the start. No lockdown just keep calm and carry on and the herd immunity will take care of it self. But his lord and masters, those in the background and the WEF had alternative agendas. Money was to be made by the elites! He knew it was all joke like most sane people but I felt his hands were tied. Anyways its all done and dusted now and the masks have well and truly slipped on people. They have showed that we arnt far off being communist, fascist and totalitarian states. At least Russia, north korea and china dont try to hide what they are which is what the west mostly does. Snap.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Jun 23 3.06pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The Great Barrington declaration stated that, I and many others stated that. Your politics has ruined future generations.....usually it's in social metrics but here the sector is financial. What you said was:- "The lockdowns made no difference in the longer term. That was stated at the time." Not "will make". "Made". You were claiming fact, not speculation. The totally discredited "Great Barrington Declaration" was not published until after the pandemic was over as a retrospective analysis. Such things are only being attempted now. It was published early as red meat for the right. Something people like you continue to chew on even though it's years past its use-by date and full of mouldy ideas. My politics have nothing to do with preferring to accept the consensus view of health authorities all over the world rather than those with a political axe to grind. Everyone knew that lockdowns cause damage, cost and pain, so should be kept as short as possible. When every answer is costly the real question is which is the least bad option. Possible mass death levels or economic and social hardships?
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